Jump to content

One for the Boxing fans!

Keef

By Keef
in The Lounge

 Share

Recommended Posts

KidKruger

KidKruger

Posted
Posted

On paper, Froch has accomplished more in the intervening years since their first fight. Kessler has had a LOT of fights, albeit many walk-overs and surely this takes a toll.

In terms of pure boxing I think Kessler is head and shoulders in front, because he keeps his form and doesn't brawl.

Some say Kessler was never the same after Ward, it was a tough defeat and he basically got head-butted to Stitchesville, Tennessee, so the ref had to stop it.

I have no idea why Kessler would say that if he loses he will retire - saying that, for me, is very negative and means you've all but decided your career's over ! If Kessler was fighting a 3rd tier fighter I could understand that sentiment, but not in a unification bout ! He's no. 2/3 in the world as a SMW, why talk about retiring ?!

I think it's a genuine 50-50 fight.

However, Froch has proved more, and more consistently. So I reckon Froch either points win or stops Kessler through cuts. So here's another Brit backing Kessler.

KidKruger

KidKruger

Posted
Posted

Yes exactly, if Froch wins this (and convincingly), there's a strong case for a trilogy.

Kessler and Froch fill stadiums, it's a no-brainer financially.


Ward can only dream of that kind of popularity. He's the best SMW but no-one wants to watch him. He's complaining about Froch/Kessler should be fighting him, but that's been done and it stank, both times.

Jeremy

Jeremy

Posted
Posted

Otta Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Lots of Brits backing Froch, including Calzage,

> who doesn't usually have nice things to say about

> him (or the other way around).



Yeah, but it was very much a back handed compliment... "I don't think Kessler is the fighter he was when I beat him", etc.

KidKruger

KidKruger

Posted
Posted

All fighters like that though !

Even Audley.



One good contest at the weekend, though dissapointing for me, was Denis Lebedev v Guillermo Jones. Guillermo had been a champion-in-recess (or something like that) for a couple of years, who was getting back into the mix. What a gifted boxer. He wounded Lebedev quite early on to the Right eye and the swelling got so bad that by Rd11 Lebedev could not see out of it and the ref stopped the contest, so TKO. I think Lebedev was winning the fight overall, despite being dropped in Rd1 or 2, but the swelling was monstrous and many say the contest should have been stopped earlier. The contest also showed how gifted Lebedev is, he was fighting a huge man in Guillermo Jones and was heavily out-weighed.

Guillermo got the LHW world title and is definitely one to watch, if he gets in better condition I think he run sthe cruiserweight division and will beat even Marco Huck (who robbed Lebedev in Germany 2 years ago).

KidKruger

KidKruger

Posted
Posted

It's a proper shiner ain't it


I'd also heard of Guillermo in the background, never quite coming to my attention fully. The name rang a bell, but now I'll start looking at his old fights. If you get a chance watch the above contest on YouTube (or BoxNation repeats). Buncey reckoned it was a fight of the decade, not just fight of the year.

Lebedev is showed huge heart. Jones is massive compared to him.

david_carnell

david_carnell

Posted
Posted

Is Lebedev small for a cruiserweight? You rarely see such a size mismatch outside the heavyweight division any more and I'm wondering how this one has occurred. Is it just body frame size rather than weight? Even so, Jones looks like a Holyfield sized heavyweight which is crazy if he came up from the LH division. Ye gods....he must have rinsed through some of those guys.


Edit: just wiki'd him....he started off as a welterweight?!?! WTF?

Jeremy

Jeremy

Posted
Posted

DC - at 5'11, Lebedev seems short for the weight. I reckon most cruisers are something like 6'1-6'3. But it's still perfectly possible to be effective against taller guys at that height (e.g. Tyson)


Meanwhile, Guillermo Jones must have been a freakishly lanky welterweight (I thought Paul Williams was a tall welter at 6'1)!


I'm cynical about this weight mismatch thing. I can't find the results of the weigh-in online, but in any division (expect heavy) you'd expect both guys to be close to the limit. Interestingly, despite the large height difference, Jones seems to be the one who's carrying a bit of extra body fat.

KidKruger

KidKruger

Posted
Posted

You gotta watch the fight on YouTube, Lebedev is a very brave gentleman.


Froch isn't on BoxNation so I'll be heading to Rose I expect.


Will look upbKones and see what else he's done.


Chad Dawson is fighting Adonis Stevenson soon, dangerous fight for Dawson against the KO artist.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
  • Advertise Here

  • Latest Discussions

    • JMK
      Assistance Dogs - Autism: any experiences?

      By JMK · Posted

      https://www.assistancedogs.org.uk/information-hub/assistance-dogs-emotional-support-dogs-and-therapy-dogs/   hello   i’d be interested to understand if anyone.has experience of Assistance Dogs especially for autistic children of different ages for emotional support and therapy   There was a prior thread on this topic on EDF 10 hrs ago but it had limited experiences and there was a (claimed) change in UK legislation in 2019. Whilst the industry appears unregulated/unlicensed, there are several providers (approx 15, perhaps more) who claim to have fully trained dogs or say that they can help families to train a puppy/young dog over the 18-24 months.  The latter obviously comes with a need for strong commitment to the challenge. Costs for a fully trained assistance dog are quoted at £13-15k albeit they claim £23k total cost to train the dog. On the one hand, this could potentially be a useful solution for some families if such a dog was truly trained as their websites claim and such a dog was accepted in public places and schools etc… On the other hand, I don’t think that I’ve ever seen an assistance dog of this type or in this context (only for a blind or partially sighted person) and hence a real risk of fraud or exploitation! The SEN challenge for families coupled with limited resources in schools or from local authorities or the NHS as well as the extremely challenging experience of many families with schools offering little or no support or making the situation worse leaves a big risk of lots of different types of fraud and or exploitation in this area.          
    • jeffersjd
      Missing Cat

      By jeffersjd · Posted

      Hi there  We live on Woodwarde Road backing on to Alleyns Top Field.  Our cat Gigi has gone missing — it’s been about 24 hours now. She is a cream Bengal. Could you please check sheds, garages, or anywhere she might have got stuck please? And if you could keep an eye out or share on any local groups/forums, we’d really appreciate it. Photo attached.   Thanks so much! My name is Jeff on 07956 910068. 
    • ruffers
      Cat Flap

      By ruffers · Posted

      Colin.    One for the old school.   Just saying.
    • Sue
      Fireworks

      By Sue · Posted

      Signed, and I will share it elsewhere, thank you for posting this. It's got nearly 70,000 signatures at present, and apparently runs till February.

East Dulwich Forum

Established in 2006, we are an online community discussion forum for people who live, work in and visit SE22.

Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...