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I do like these arguments 'when my mother..' etc. etc.


There's absolutely nothing that the current generation can do to right the wrongs of the past, but that doesn't mean that we're guilty of the same crime. To inappropriately drag up these issues (by way of accusation) as part of the debate is about revenge, not resolution.


Likewise the point about pensions. Why the differential existed is only of fractional importance when compared with the far more grown-up and challenging question 'is this relevant to modern society, and how can we structure ourselves for the future'?.


As for the 'men created it and you're a man'... well I hope never to hear such bigotted offensive cr@p again in my lifetime. You should be ashamed. Attitudes like that created the holocaust. It's a mental disease.

Yes very good Mockney! Love it.


By the way Hugo the pension situation has already changed. I won't be able to claim a pension at 60 and neither will most of my peers. Everyone under I think 50 (?) both men and women will only be able to claim at 65. If you read the end of Trinity's post, she asks the very question that you also raise as being important - she was merely answering a previous post in discussing the reasons for the difference in retirement ages. And I wasn't trying to make any accusation towards anyone in my post - just making a personal point about why I feel working against discriminatino is so important - because at the end of the day, it's not just an academic debate but affects real people and their lives.


Anyway, this thread has gotton completely out of control - honestly, I mean it now, I'm not going to add to its unmanageableness by adding to it anymore.

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