Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Hi Savage


The consultation event I went to was quite well attended and everyone in the room was unanimously opposed to the school. The Harris reps acknowledged that things have changed since 2013 when they were given approval and the demand for a new primary in ED / Nunhead is no longer there. They said that due to the huge opposition and very little demand the school looks unlikely to go ahead.


Well done everyone who opposed it. Feels like good news.

Wow, that's great news, a victory for common sense! I was worried that wrangling over this issue would delay the opening of the secondary school but it sounds like the way is really now clear? V. exciting. Well done to everyone who campaigned over this and made our voices heard.

The Southwark letter is interesting. It lists schools in the Camberwell planning area as providing sufficient capacity for Dulwich and Nunhead area.

It states Southwark administration is against nodal points for admissions. I hadn't appreciated they were now against this. This was a key aspect of the unsuccessful Haberdashers bid.


It does seems strange that they're reporting falling number with stable birth rate and I don't get any sense of famalies leaving the area. The Sotuhwark predicted population rise is 61,000 2011-2020.

James are you really interpreting Victoria Mills' letter to mean that Southwark are 'against nodal points'? If I'm looking at the same letter she is referring very specifically to the Nunhead Primary consultation having two nodal points - one quite a long distance from the site; and also 'for primary admissions'


"Our view is that your planned nodal point admissions policy, with two nodal points, in different communities and one located far from the school site would be incompatible with this vision"


I don't interpret that as being relevant at all to the proposed nodal point sited on a particular edge of a secondary school site, as the Habs bid was..

Bids don't get decided on number of signatures. It's one of the essential qualifying aspects of a bid, not generally a tie breaker. In any case, only the number of qualifying signatures counts (people with children who would start school at the appropriate time who would make the school their first choice) and we don't know how many of those Charter had. It is immaterial anyway so no big issue.
I have no idea! Not meaning that to be dismissive. From what I know of the bid process (which is fairly basic knowledge), both bids would have been pretty strong and I guess it came down to the people on the day, and possibly which aspects fit into a regional or national picture. To be short listed means that the DfE are confident that you can open a school and have the requisite community support etc., so the last stage is where the subtleties play out.

Both bids were clearly extremely strong. The EFA must have a reason to select Charter so it must have been the stronger bid.


Eitherway, we will have an outstanding new school serving our community opening 2016.

hopefully they'll be able to keep the central Chateau building with it's marvellous first floor hall.

" The Charter School East Dulwich


The ?outstanding? and heavily over-subscribed Charter School will be opening a second school in 2016 on the site of the former East Dulwich hospital. Catering for 1220 students, the school will meet the huge demand for new places in the Dulwich area. Charter School East Dulwich will encourage all students to become creative, confident and caring citizens. The school will also offer work-related learning through a partnership with King?s College Hospital, the largest local employer."


from https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-announces-landmark-wave-of-free-schools

And not a moment too soon. Secondary places are desperately needed in the locality, and whether Habs or Charter provided them was irrelevant. Both excellent potential sponsors. I presume the EFA chose Charter probably because they are a (more local) local provider.


Harris were/are pathetic. They never actually consulted on having a school in Nunhead, just as a by product of their East Dulwich consultation. And the new site for the latter is an utter disaster (but that's for another thread...).


I am/was completely mystified by Councillor Barber's comments about Labour being against the hospital site - since when ? As to his comments about a missing 1334 kids from births - they go to other boroughs, they go to private schools, they get home schooled. The average is about right - actually, if you do your homework, you will see more parents choosing Southwark secondaries than in previous years.

Hi landsberger,

Well we got something right - we initiated the secondary school campaign, fought successfully to change Southwark Councils utter opposition, attracted two great free school applicants and the school is proceeding on land we secured via the Right to Contest we submitted.


Numbers. The birth rate is stable at all time high. Southwark forecast on that basis a big shortage which they had been accurate on. using the same numbers with no change in assumptions they're now saying we'll be over provided.

I#m seeking to meet the person coming up with these forecasts because something smells fishy. I get where some children go but do you sense a mass exodus from the area or massive doubling in private school uptake? I don't.

> The birth rate is stable at all time high.


Actually, GLA birth projections show a distinct drop in the Dulwich area


Year Births


2009 697

2010 691

2011 692

2012 648

2013 651


Looks like a drop to me, James


Percentage of Dulwich kids resident as a percentage of kids attending a primary there are all over the place


2011 58%

2012 67%

2013 58%

2014 63%

2015 72%


There's no evidence of need there at all.


"I'm seeking to meet the person coming up with these forecasts because something smells fishy" - why don't you ask the GLA (who provide the stats to Southwark) for a chat ?

As house prices rise the numbers of 'young parents' (and indeed young pre-parents) coming to Dulwich and East Dulwich will tend to fall, purely on economic grounds. People brought up locally who want 'their own' accommodation will be tending to move away from the area to more affordable areas. [i am not saying any of this is a good thing]. Those who can afford to move in with young children will be more likely than in the past to choose private (or at least non state primary) routes, although the quality of state primaries is generally high locally. So a falling away of demand for state primary places is not an unreasonable planning assumption.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Where did I say he did a good job? Yup and Corbyn was very close to Len McCluskey and funded by Unite wasn't he...they're all as bad as each other... Labour have to purge their party of the far-left - they're a disaster. Allan Johnson summed it up so well on election night in 2019....  
    • Thank you for the detailed advise @trinidad It is definitely damage we are concerned about. I don’t think Evri would agree to pay the bill to fix our gate or letter box if they were to be damaged as a result of their delivery drivers helper. Our doorbell can be heard from outside when rung so we don’t quite believe the aggressive simultaneous door/letter box banging is necessary. It can be quite a shock it is done very aggressively.  I’ll definitely action the steps you’ve kindly provided along with a phone call tomorrow. I do sympathise with the role drivers have and how busy they are, which is why we tried communicating directly with her but sadly we haven’t succeeded 
    • What outcome would you like? Disciplinary action? Not to have the driver back? Retraining? I know there is alot of pressure on drivers to deliver within a set day. if he slams the gate, is it evidence he is causing damage, or is the noise a irritant to yourself? You could put a sign up or buy a signing asking to close the gate gentle???? can you hear the door bell from the door? he might be ringing, not hearing and therefore knocking. In trhe notes section of the be livery page, there is a note section, although there is not 100 per cent these notes would be read as these drivers are constantly rushing.  I did a google search for you, i found this and you can try the envri website Contact Us | Evri   To complain to Evri, you can follow these steps: Contact Customer Service: Call Evri's customer service at 0330 808 5456 for assistance with your complaint.    1 Write a Letter: Address your complaint to Capitol House, 1 Capitol Close, Morley, Leeds, West Yorkshire, LS27 0WH.    1 Use the Official Website: Visit the Evri complaints page on their official website for detailed instructions on how to submit a complaint.    2 Email or Call for Specific Issues: For issues like missing or damaged parcels, you can email or call 0800 988 8888, which is free to call.    1 These methods will help you effectively communicate your concerns to Evri.   My driver is called anthony, he is brilliant to be honest. I cant fault him.
    • When I have more time and energy, I will look up the actual number of votes cast for each party in that election, rather than the number of seats won. I'm interested to see that you apparently  think that  Boris Johnson did a good job of "leading the country through Covid." Is your memory really that short? I won't stoop to calling Johnson and his cronies names in the way that you seem to think is appropriate for left wing politicians. At least the left wing politicians have some semblance of morals and a concern for people who aren't in some over privileged inner circle and/or raking in money for themselves on the back of an epidemic. I'm not going to open a can of worms on here  by commenting on the disgraceful so called "purge". 
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...