What Labour really thinks of the white working class

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http://gu.com/p/43fm5

Islington tossers

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It was the WH flag that really irked wasn't it?

[PokerTime]

It's one tweet by one MP. Unfortunate yes, but hardly a mandate for a Labour view of 'the white working class', whatever that actually means btw.

[miga]

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PokerTime Wrote:

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> It's one tweet by one MP. Unfortunate yes, but

> hardly a mandate for a Labour view of 'the white

> working class', whatever that actually means btw.

Wishful thinking. I think you're wrong this will be all over the 'tory' press tomorrow. The Sun's already trying to find the owner and you should see the reaction on more working class forums than this, like football ones : )

[Loz]

PokerTime Wrote:

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> It's one tweet by one MP. Unfortunate yes, but

> hardly a mandate for a Labour view of 'the white

> working class', whatever that actually means btw.

Not a mandate, but another indicator as to why Labour have been losing the traditional 'Labour' working class vote over the last decade - first to the BNP and more recently to UKIP.

[PokerTime]

I have no doubt it will be all over the press but it's hardly Grodon Brown being caught on tape calling a woman bigotted is it.

The working class thankfully doesn't only include the likes of die hard football fans. And the majority of working class people don't hang flags of St.George outside their homes either, So what kind of englishman does? UKIP? EDL? Not sure Labour had those votes anymore anyway.

[PokerTime]

I agree Loz that Labour's move away from the core vlaues it was formed under has alienated many longer standing traditional voters. But how else were they to get elected after 16 years of a Tory Government that took us towards a more free market economy, from which enough people benefitted at the time? As we all know, UKIP and the BNP never were, and never will be the answer. And I don't know what it will take either for all parties to represent the needs of all the people again.

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PokerTime Wrote:

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> I have no doubt it will be all over the press but

> it's hardly Grodon Brown being caught on tape

> calling a woman bigotted is it.

>

> The working class thankfully doesn't only include

> the likes of die hard football fans. And the

> majority of working class people don't hang flags

> of St.George outside their homes either, So what

> kind of englishman does? UKIP? EDL? Not sure

> Labour had those votes anymore anyway.

Same metropolitan sneering from you then

[????]

Apparently she's resigned from the shadow cabinet and no doubt gone back to her ?3 million Islington home for a glass of champagne

[titch juicy]

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> Apparently she's resigned from the shadow cabinet

> and no doubt gone back to her ?3 million Islington

> home for a glass of champagne

now who's generalising?

[????]

Ok the champagne was poetic licence...the gaff and its value not

[????]

And if anyone wants to know how far the Labour Party is from its roots Google where it's first seat in the House of Commons was and then look at the crest on the flag in that champagne socialists snobby tweet

[PokerTime]

(sorry hit the wrong button and this went as a private message to you ???? - was meant to be here)

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> Same metropolitan sneering from you then

Not at all. I am working class through and through, as are all of my family and their friends etc, and none of them support the EDL, UKIP or hang the flag of St. George from their windows. They are in fact the traditional labour voters that some claim are all turning away from the Labour Party.

I just resent your assumption that working class people are all the same, and they should stay the same forever.

[Louisa]

PT all my family and a large number of my friends were traditional Labour voters who became disenfranchised post 1997. At least under Blair, we knew where we stood. Under Milliband, who knows what he represents or his party. The sneering from the top of the Labour Party on the 'dead cert' white working class vote is shocking and its forced some very traditional hardcore socialists into the long grass not knowing which way to turn. Labours elite shun the working classes at that peril.

Louisa.

[*Bob*]

I can almost see the heavily engineered double-pager the Snu will write when they recruit this guy.

"That's it, hold the flag up a bit more. Can you look at a more more sad? Great! Tape recorder's running. Lets stick to loving your country and not being ashamed of being English. Don't say anything too vile.."

[????]

Too late *bob* ...."we are only here for the sneer"

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I love it when people "resent my Assumptious" Pokertime, you pompous ass

[*Bob*]

That was one quick resignation.

Rats / sinking ship

[Otta]

I've only just seen this whole story.

She's a muppet.

BUT...

She only posted a photo and wrote "image from Rochester".

Ww've all filled in the gaps, which might say more about us than we'd like to admit.

[Parkdrive]

What Otta said

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Otta Wrote:

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> I've only just seen this whole story.

>

> She's a muppet.

>

> BUT...

>

> She only posted a photo and wrote "image from

> Rochester".

>

> Ww've all filled in the gaps, which might say more

> about us than we'd like to admit.

We (and 'we' haven't all filled in the gaps BTW) aren't sitting members of parliament for the 'Labour'(ha ha ha) Party

[PokerTime]

Name calling says more about you ???? than it does me. If you can't cope with anyone disagreeing with you then you shouldn't post at all perhaps?

We all know what kind of person was being portrayed by that photo (rightly or wrongly as we don't know the person living there). The white van, die hard racist football fan, who thinks inmmigration is to blame for all our woes and supports the EDL with a fervour? I know of thiese kinds of people from experience, I grew up amongst them. They don't represent the general views of the working class, they don't speak for me or my family. So the only pompous ass is you in thinking anyone who disgarees with you must be sneering too? It's a bit like your constant tiresome regection of opposing views on economics being the rantings of the left as well.

Otta is right, and there's hardly a press furore this morning either is there?

[PokerTime]

'We (and 'we' haven't all filled in the gaps BTW) aren't sitting members of parliament for the 'Labour'(ha ha ha) Party'

But you filled in gaps in claiming the Labour party is sneering at the working class because of one photo sent by one MP! And you felt so certain in your assumption you felt the need to start a thread in a local forum for it.

[Otta]

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> (and 'we' haven't all filled in the gaps BTW)

Well judging by the title of this thread which you started, you certainly have filled in the odd gap.