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Oh f*ck really, you can't tell the difference in texture between fresh and dried pasta?


You must be kidding Fox


Really really really, no really!


But then your thing on charcoal kebab taste is so out of synch with reality, i'm not suprised at your sillyness here


Press death button please

Seabag there's no difference between frozen and fresh veg, if anything the frozen stuff has been proven to be "fresher" because it's taken from field to freezer retaining its freshness! You really do believe the rubbish you spout don't you? Haha literally crying with laughter here. I bet the likes of Waitrose and all the little fresh this that and the other organic shops love you coming in store. "I saw you coming" syndrome springs to mind. Some people just love being ripped off I swear.


Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag there's no difference between frozen and

> fresh veg, if anything the frozen stuff has been

> proven to be "fresher" because it's taken from

> field to freezer retaining its freshness! You

> really do believe the rubbish you spout don't you?

> Haha literally crying with laughter here. I bet

> the likes of Waitrose and all the little fresh

> this that and the other organic shops love you

> coming in store. "I saw you coming" syndrome

> springs to mind. Some people just love being

> ripped off I swear.

>

> Louisa.



Same with many things in life though isn't it Louisa? Whilst you heave around the district in your beaten up Nissan Micra, loaded with slowly-defrosting frozen peas and lamb shanks, others enjoy having food delivered to the door (and the net-curtain twitching from neighbours as they tut-tut at the extravagance of Ocado).


Meanwhile, I'm sitting on the sofa counting the cool grand a year I save by not having a car - whilst the oil companies, Government, parking attendants, garages and car dealers continue to relieve you of your (hard-earned?) cash...

Lowlander what is this obsession with food being delivered? It's extremely antisocial and representative of all that is lazy about 21st century life. Whilst you are sat at home not getting any exercise I am whizzing about in my car (and on foot) searching out bargains in my local environs. Any money you save by having stuff delivered is offset by the additional premium a firm like Waitrose whack on top of every day essentials. A car isn't just about convenience for people of a certain age, it's a necessity in some cases. It also means I don't rely on public transport if I fancy a leisurely trip to the coast on a weekend. Looking at the cost of trains etc I'm very happy to stick with my car.


Jeremy, Eric and Mags sourced all their veg from fresh local suppliers I can assure you.


Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:

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> Lowlander what is this obsession with food being

> delivered? It's extremely antisocial and

> representative of all that is lazy about 21st

> century life. Whilst you are sat at home not

> getting any exercise I am whizzing about in my car

> (and on foot) searching out bargains in my local

> environs. Any money you save by having stuff

> delivered is offset by the additional premium a

> firm like Waitrose whack on top of every day

> essentials. A car isn't just about convenience for

> people of a certain age, it's a necessity in some

> cases. It also means I don't rely on public

> transport if I fancy a leisurely trip to the coast

> on a weekend. Looking at the cost of trains etc

> I'm very happy to stick with my car.

>

> Jeremy, Eric and Mags sourced all their veg from

> fresh local suppliers I can assure you.

>

> Louisa.



Louisa what is this obsession with driving everywhere? The obesity, slothfulness and inefficiency of this country are exactly why the UK is going to the dogs. Getting my groceries delivered - price matched to Tescos - is efficient, economic and keeps traffic off the roads.


In addition, I walk 5 miles a day to and from work.


Every week I walk to Peckham and back, buying up garlic, spring onions, okra, herbs, meat, fish and a myriad of other bits and pieces - because it's better quality and cheaper. But Ocado beats them on price for wine, tinned goods, some greens (broccoli, spinach).


And you have no idea of the principle of a car being a necessity. Try living in the wilds of Scotland (I have!) and you'll soon find out.


No-one needs a car. My 90 year old grandmother lived car-free in a house heated by coal fires and did all her own shopping - carried home.

Seabag Wrote:

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> So fresh veg is no better than frozen?

> You two are proper muppets

>

> Fodder for the shops you use

>

> Ha ha !


Frozen fruit and vegetables can be healthier, with higher levels of vitamins and cancer fighting antioxidants, than leafy ?fresh? produce.


Two independent studies found more beneficial nutrients in everything from frozen broccoli florets and carrots to blueberries.


In two out of three cases frozen fruit and vegetables scored better on antioxidant-type compounds ? including Vitamin C, polyphenols, anthocyanins, lutein and beta-carotene.


Consumption of these anti-oxidant compounds is considered beneficial in preventing cancer and supporting the working of the body, brain, skin and eyes.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2449843/Frozen-food-IS-better-Higher-levels-vitamins-antioxidants.html


There are numerous sites to back this up. But it really is common sense..


Seabag do a little research. Engage brain before posting here.

Your constant Insults to Louisa and Myself would seem to enhance your ignorance.


Muppets ??? I believe it is yourself that has a hand up your backside making you work.


DulwichFox

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag there's no difference between frozen and

> fresh veg, if anything the frozen stuff has been

> proven to be "fresher" because it's taken from

> field to freezer retaining its freshness!


Louisa Wrote:

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> Jeremy, Eric and Mags sourced all their veg from

> fresh local suppliers I can assure you.



But why did they bother? You can't both be right. A excellent demonstration of arguing yourself into a hole.. again.


Some frozen stuff is fine, but a lot of it has a gruesome texture, vitamins or not.


Let's not be silly just for the sake of it.

Of course frozen and fresh veg taste different, despite nutritional value. It's almost a pointless argument. It's just arguing for the sake of it.


[ I'm kind of with Louisa on the car thing though... don't strictly *need* one, but it's a very useful thing to have - trips out of London, B&Q, weekends away with the baby and luggage, etc etc ]

*Bob* you've turned into Mr sensible pants of late! Where is the wicked sarcasm? Eric and Mags chose to source local suppliers but personally I would choose the frozen option because I don't mind the texture.


That article in the mail is interesting. Personally I've always thought it was common sense that freshly frozen veg would retain more antioxidants than stuff that's been sat around for days in cargo losing it's goodness. I've found quite a few scientific articles of interest in the mail over the years Pibe.


Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:

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> *Bob* you've turned into Mr sensible pants of late!


Alas I'm having an inconvenient busy spell of work - and am unable to give the forum my full attention. Hopefully it will die down soon and normal service can be resumed.


Please accept this frozen bag of mushy, fibrous, grey runner beans in the meantime - as a token of my esteem.

Bluelagoon Wrote:

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> ultimately - who cares.

>

> One person likes to do this, another person likes

> to do that. There's room enough for both.



Not on the EDF. Everyone thinks they know best.

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