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*Bob* Wrote:

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> Most other songs don't make $15m though.

>

> Were it not for this, no-one would give a tinker's

> cuss, not even the Gaye estate.


I believe Thick, never has a man been more appropriately named, brought the law suit against the Gaye estate for having the bare faced cheek to accuse him of plagiarism.

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> We seem to be more outraged by cultures that deny women education and the freedom to drive

> for example than we do by a culture that makes mobile phone porn accessible to children.


Am I missing your drift here or are you saying that's a bad thing?


I'm always bewildered that films are forced to remove a scene with nudity, but are allowed to keep the dozen or so violent murders.

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> I believe Thick, never has a man been more

> appropriately named, brought the law suit against

> the Gaye estate for having the bare faced cheek to

> accuse him of plagiarism.


Ah yeah - you're probably right. I never did know grasp how the weird US litigative process works. I expect not doing so would have been seen as an admission of guilt of something.


Anyway, the antidote to 'Blurred Lines' is 'Sexual Healing'. It should be played repeatedly on every radio station until the horror of Thicke and 'Hatstand' Pharrell's effort fades into nothing.

Loz Wrote:

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> Blah Blah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > We seem to be more outraged by cultures that

> deny women education and the freedom to drive

> > for example than we do by a culture that makes

> mobile phone porn accessible to children.

>

> Am I missing your drift here or are you saying

> that's a bad thing?

>

> I'm always bewildered that films are forced to

> remove a scene with nudity, but are allowed to

> keep the dozen or so violent murders.



No not saying it's a bad thing at all. Just wish we could be equally outraged.


Agree on the nudity versus violence thing.

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> *Bob* Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Most other songs don't make $15m though.

> >

> > Were it not for this, no-one would give a tinker's

> > cuss, not even the Gaye estate.

>

> I believe Thick, never has a man been more appropriately named, brought the law suit against

> the Gaye estate for having the bare faced cheek to accuse him of plagiarism.


Apparently that is due to some weirdness in the US legal system to do with burden of proof. It's not uncommon.


It's interesting that you blame Thicke. The Guardian did this as well - reams of articles about how Thicke was responsible for this 'sexist' song, whilst (often simultaneously) producing articles praising Pharrell. Had the Daily Mail done it the other way around...

Still lost his share of the dosh, though.


Anyway, here's a little taster of the court cases to have been and maybe some to come. At least in most of these I can hear the similarities (Air That I Breathe and Creep was pushing it though).


http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/quiz/2015/mar/11/blurred-lines-marvin-gaye-copyright-plagiarism-sounds-like-quiz

Louisa Wrote:

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> I've just watched it on YouTube, and personally I

> don't find the lyrics offensive. What I do find

> offensive, is Robin Thicke's dancing.


Which version of the video did you watch, Louisa? There are two...

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I believe Thick, never has a man been more

> > appropriately named, brought the law suit

> against

> > the Gaye estate for having the bare faced cheek

> to

> > accuse him of plagiarism.

>

> Ah yeah - you're probably right. I never did know

> grasp how the weird US litigative process works. I

> expect not doing so would have been seen as an

> admission of guilt of something.

>


"Anyway, the antidote to 'Blurred Lines' is 'Sexual Healing'. It should be played repeatedly on every radio station until the horror of Thicke and 'Hatstand' Pharrell's effort fades into nothing."



Now that's a petition i'd sign. I fact I may start one right now.

Loz Wrote:

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> Still lost his share of the dosh, though.


Ultimately whilst the elements of a song are split 50/50 between lyrical and musical content - you can't separate one from the other when it comes to copyright.


Its Pharrell's fault. He produced it - and it's the production elements (and the song's slightly unexpected massive success) that did for them. Everyone still ends-up with a stack of cash though (Universal incurred nearly 6m in what they describe as 'overhead' - genuis), so not too many tears to be shed.

My feeling right from the off was that - regardless of the notes, chords etc; the core of it - the spirit or whatever you want to call it - just feels like too much of a lift.


With that sort of cash floating around, it was kind of inevitable. It's the sort of thing you'd usually expect to see settled out of court, had Team Thicke not to chance their arm.

Louisa Wrote:

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> It's called the "unrated version" Loz and he seems

> to be wearing a suite with sunglasses.


Ahhh. Try the 'unrated version'. I'll PM you a link. Clue: it's not what he's wearing.


Basically, they purposely set out to make the video as sexist as possible. They kind of succeeded.

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