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[Otta]

Didn't the rolling Stones take the verve to court over bittersweet symphony?

[Jeremy]

That was settled out of court, Otta. And I think it was over sample clearance, rather than a plagiarism case. But yeah, The Verve got totally screwed.

[*Bob*]

As Keith Richards said "If The Verve can write a better song, they can keep the money". They never did.

See also that RunDMC smash remix that Nevins only got a taste of cash on and as one of the DMC crew said (something like) "if what you do is that good, play it again, Sam". He never did either.

[Jeremy]

I don't really rate Bittersweet Symphony anyway, take away the orchestral sample (i.e. the good bit) and you're left with four generic chords, a repetitive melody, and run-of-the mill lyrics. But totally stripping them of songwriting credits was harsh.

[*Bob*]

It's not called the music 'business' for nothing.

It's fine when you're sitting around in your scummy rehearsal room smoking a doobie and being all about the music and dreaming of what might be, but when you find yourself with a big hit and money washing around it's a different story.

Anyway, Ashcroft made his wedge on Drugs - a far shitter song - which I don't think would have happened without Symphony - so he did ok.

[Otta]

Urban Hymns must have shifted tons of copies, every fucker seemed to have it. Hate that bloody album!

[Jeremy]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> but when you find yourself with a big hit and

> money washing around it's a different story.

Yeah that's why I chose to avoid the limelight. Keep it underground, you know.

[Jah Lush]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> As Keith Richards said "If The Verve can write a

> better song, they can keep the money". They never did.

So true. The Robin Thick/Pharrel whatsit is a bit shit though and very misogynistic and it does touch on male dominance and rape fantasy blah blah.. though we shouldn't take that lightly. Coz it's fecking horrible. And if you really want some decent misogynistic tunes you can't get much better than the Stones. Just one example here. Gawd bless 'em. Fecking tune this is.

Cor, and just dig Brian Jones on them marimbas, baby.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Most pop songs seem to be secondary to the accompanying softcore videos, featuring gyrating, barely-clad women. I blame MTV. ;-)

[Otta]

Not a new thing though. Remember the thong song?

[Loz]

... or "Boys Boys Boys" by the walking wardrobe malfunction, Sabrina.

[Blah Blah]

Given how much music has ever been published surely it's going to be that some people write what they think is an original tune only to find themselves sued by someone saying I worte a song that sounds like that 40 years ago! It's impossible to know everything ever written.

[Jeremy]

That's true BB. Reminds me of when Joe Satriani sued Coldplay. Both songs shared an identical - albeit generic - melody, but I'm inclined to think it was a coincidence.

[Loz]

I waiting for the owner of the Beatles back catalogue to sue Oasis now for their first three albums (at the very least).

[Otta]

You'd definitely be hard pressed to write a song with an original chord progression, but when it comes to the melody or a guitar riff for example, that's more obvious.

But there are loads of songs that remind me of other songs , which I'm sure is not intentional copying.

[Otta]

The rolling stones should sue Jet for several songs on Get Born, especially "Move on".

[Jeremy]

Yeah but it's only really worth their while if the song's a massive earner. I don't think there's much to be made from album tracks by Aussie also-rans.

[Otta]

Fair point.

[uncleglen]

And then there is Andrew Lloyd Webber...

[*Bob*]

This thread is soiled. It must be cleansed.

Let the healing begin..

 

[Earl Aelfheah]

Bob Stanley on the danger of confusing musical inspiration with appropriation: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/blurred-lines-musical-inspiration-pharrell-williams-marvin-gaye

[keekybreeks]

its ok though. i welcome the transmogrification of a seriouss thread into a dad rock tug fest.

[Jeremy]

The original subject had limited potential...

[Louisa]

I think we should talk about blurred vision personally, still forced to walk all the way to Peckham for a specsavers.

Louisa.