20 mph on Peckham rye road

[trizza]

Your're fine.

I cycle on Peckham Rye every day and overtake cars going down the hill! I also drive it regulary.

The cameras still seem to be set for a 30mph limit. That's assuming they have film in too, which I doubt.

You would know if you had been caught as there is a very bright double flash - hard to miss really.

I actually think the 20mph limit on that road and Sydenham Hill is dangerous as it encourages risk taking because people get frustrated. I get it on side roads - no issue with that. However, crawling along a wide main road at 20mph with clear running traffic seems barmy to me and it's bad for the environment!

The whole thing is pointless anyway as there is no way the cross southwark 20mph zone will be enforced.

[DulwichFox]

There are many types of Speed Camera. Not all Speed cameras Flash

Truvelo Speed Cameras

Truvelo system is steadily becoming more common and some parts of the UK now predominantly use this type of camera. Three white lines are painted just ahead of the Truvelo camera and there are strips in the road that register the speed of the passing vehicle and trigger the camera.

By using an infra-red flash, the Truvelo camera avoids the flash that the rear Gatso cameras produce when a photograph is taken. This means that the driver doesn't see a flash but the camera can take a photograph of the driver, as well as the front of the vehicle.

http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/typesofspeedcameras.html

P.S. Many Speed Cameras are digital and do not use film..

DulwichFox

[Jeremy]

Sue Wrote:

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> ?300 for a wing mirror?!

I've paid over ?200 for an old fashioned manual mirror. For a modern car with electric mirrors/heated/auto dimming.. could be several times that!

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > ?300 for a wing mirror?!

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> I've paid over ?200 for an old fashioned manual

> mirror. For a modern car with electric

> mirrors/heated/auto dimming.. could be several

> times that!

Plus cost of fitting and any repair to bodywork ..

DulwichFox

[Sue]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > ?300 for a wing mirror?!

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> I've paid over ?200 for an old fashioned manual

> mirror. For a modern car with electric

> mirrors/heated/auto dimming.. could be several

> times that!

Bloody hell! Thank God I have an old car!!

[Bluerevolution]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> It cost my relative ?300 ish because he was

> driving at 20mph behind a cyclist and a car went

> to overtake him and knocked his wing mirror off

so the other driver wasn't driving with due care and attention-sorry for your relative but that is not to do with speed restrictions that is somebody driving like a t""t

[Jeremy]

Bluerevolution Wrote:

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> that is not to do with speed restrictions that is somebody

> driving like a t""t

You are right in that there will always be people driving like idiots...

[JohnL]

Bluerevolution Wrote:

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> uncleglen Wrote:

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> > It cost my relative ?300 ish because he was

> > driving at 20mph behind a cyclist and a car

> went

> > to overtake him and knocked his wing mirror off

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> so the other driver wasn't driving with due care

> and attention-sorry for your relative but that is

> not to do with speed restrictions that is somebody

> driving like a t""t

There maybe other reasons for 20mph - It's not just

Southwark - even Paris is doing it (and thats 20kmh)

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/30/paris-to-limit-speeds-to-under-20-mph/

[henryb]

Well Peckham Rye/Forest Hill Rd is only a B route, it has a park, lots of residential properties/shops, two schools and lots of young pedestrians crossing and cyclists. It would fall in the former category for me.

Red Routes, like you say, are a different case.

[henryb]

And yes people should think of the children when it comes to road safety.

[rodneybewes]

... and most of the other boroughs in London, and now TFL on the red routes...

[Bluerevolution]

henryb, I live just off Peckham Rye (yes, I'm an interloper om EDF !!) I went to get the bus from Solomans Passage to DKH Sainsburys a few weeks ago when it was still dark at 630pm. 3 kids thought it funny playing "chicken" just before the bus stop- I did think of the children and told them "This is not a playground, go on to the park and play" How I didn't use coarse language is beyond me as the vitriol spat at me was unreal.

I warned them 3 times and a car had to screech to a halt- so f the children from now on !!!

On a side note, if I'm on my way to DHFC, I wear HI-Vis and have many times stopped traffic so children can retrieve balls or dogs etc but those little baskets.............

[henryb]

and Edinburgh, Birmingham, Bristol, Milan, Barcelona...

[Jeremy]

henryb Wrote:

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> and Edinburgh

I looked it up :

Key features of the network are

?Residential roads, shopping streets as well as the city centre are now included as 20mph roads

?The retention of a coherent and connected network of 30 mph and 40 mph.

Which seems perfectly sensible, and is not quite the same as the blanket 20mph limit people seem to be discussing.

[Bluerevolution]

Ok, I've just been from Tesco Rye Lane to Solomans Passage-the 20 mph IS NOT a speed restriction it's a bloody challenge to move that fast !!!!

[rodneybewes]

Maybe it's a target! :D

That stretch has been 20 for a while actually, hasn't it?