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Turned up to a packed car park just before 6PM and went to get a ticket from the machine (you get a ticket but it is free parking for up to 4 hours). No tickets came out but a message read 'no parking 'til 19th May'. This seemed odd since the car park was totally full and I thought it must be an error message.


Roll on 60 minutes later and I emerged after my workout to the depressing sight of my car covered in tickets and a big clamp. I wasn't the only one. There were at least 5 other people in the same boat. Had to pay ?100 to get 'de-clamped'. We all took photos of the machine, but I wonder if we have a leg to stand on when it comes to appeal. Has anyone else been in this situation in that car park? I am gutted. I can ill afford the money!!:(

Appeal! I read somewhere that most appeals are successful... Persist & don't give up! Provide photo evidence and don't back down. I did this recently against Tower Hamlets (badly signposted parking restrictions) and they were overruled by the parking ombudsman in the end; the fine was cancelled.

gerritsmith Wrote:

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> I was there in the morning and the machine was out

> of order but did not say "no Parking till 19th

> May" so I just parked normal and luckily did not

> get clamped. If I were you I would appeal.



Its the 19th today!

Thank you Gerritsmith and James. I appreciate your response and stating that the machine was out of order today too. God knows what the message meant that I have photographed. I am still really upset about it all!!

Yes reetpetite it is the 19th but Gerritsmith says the machine was still out of order.....???


james, i am definitely appealing and will take this all the way if need be.

If Southwark had their way we?d be burnt in a few car tires, South African style for parking offences in the borough.


Mind they are not as bad as Lambeth where you are caught on CCTV for rubbish and driving offences at intentionally unclear junctions.


I used to get annoyed by the human rights lot but now I can see their argument.


Appeal an unjust parking ticket!


What happens if every one is given a parking ticket regardless?


We?d all have to appeal. But lots of us would not!


Why do we not get a guaranteed ?100 + costs ie ?50 per letter ?200 per day off work etc etc if we win a ticket appeal there is little impact on Southwark if anything they justify a department who handle the appeals so yet another Southwark salary paid for by us!


I am more and more disgusted by the way we are treated by our council a council which we fun who are supposed to work for us.


All they do is stress us out and spend our money in ever more idiotic ways.





Parking in the borough is unreasonably restricted look at lordship lane there is plenty of room for parking and why are there no meters?


Meters would stop all day parking!


Or maybe Southwark should move to a Westminster automated telephone parking system.


Every road off of LL should have residents parking.


It is impossible to park on the street in Peckham WHY???



Disgusting manipulation for ZERO benefit to the community by SOUTHWARK yet again!

RosieH Wrote:

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> Yeah, bastard councils, deliberately trapping us

> into parking illegally. THEY'RE the

> criminals!!!!!!!




LOL


I'm NOT saying you shouldn't get a ticket. Don't twist what I have written I'm the first to pay when I get one!


What I'm saying is they Southwark should make every effort to make full use and give us every available parking space in the Borough.


THEY are NOT!


You're very funny but not too clever or you?re a poor reader.

Not sure about your point, beardy. On one hand you're having a go at the council for being money-grabbers, then you suggest phone parking, meters and residents' permits to replace free parking in and around LL. If you've ever lived in a permit zone, you'll appreciate that they're just another excuse to coin it, through the enforcement of unintentional infringements, like having one wheel over the white line or a permit placed in the wrong part of the windscreen.

Yes I've lived in a CPZ and it was easy I rarely had a problem finding a parking space there were always spaces available for friends I just gave them a day permit.


I?m not on about the money to the council for parking it?s about the ?60 ticket fines.

I?m happy to pay a ?2 to park.

One parking fine equals 20-30 times on a pay space only a fool would risk the fine.


Many cars in and around ED are effectively parked for storage or by shop workers and not used. A CPZ would free those spaces up.


Meters would mean that parking was self-controlled as you pay and then you get back to avoid ticket the present 20min limit is not long enough and gets abused when some park for hours.



What we have does not work, every time I look to park I struggle even though I?m happy to park a long way away and walk rather than get a ticket.



Every system is open to abuse by the Council enforcement! $$! ?$! ?$Ts they are the money grabbers!


I?m happy to pay for the right to park at least I?ll get a space.





I visited Le Touquet last year a fabulous car friendly place unlike Brighton or Weston or Camber or any other UK seaside area the parking was fabulous, and in the town they had these timed sensor bollards, which counted down the time you had to stay fantastic system.





Also don?t forget that WE individual users DON?T own the roads and parking spaces!

snorky Wrote:

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> can someone fill in the missing information for me

> please ?

>

>

> person parks on council property knowing fine well

> that parking isnt sanctioned & gets tocket to

> prove

>

> Person gets clamped / fined

>

>

> anyone ?



Hold on that should read "person parks on public property knowing"

lenk Wrote:

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> Whenever I ride my bike around East Dulwich I

> never have this problem.

>

> I can't see why you need to drive to the shops if

> you live in the area.

>

> I guess parking fines are just a laziness tax,

> when you think about it.


Maybe we should go with a car free zone, as was Peckham High Street, which died a death, mind you these are different days and maybe it'd work in East Dulwich.


I'm warming to a park and ride system?


Also thinking about a gated community with tollgates for visitor paid access.


The Future holds such wonderful opportunities for all of us.


Bikes unfortunately don?t work for the majority the hilly nature of the area in Holland it?s fine.


Mind you if these electric bikes drop to reasonable prices if could work though not for mums with a couple of toddlers.


There is a solution you?re just not looking at it practically.

thebeard Wrote:

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> snorky Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > can someone fill in the missing information for

> me

> > please ?

> >

> >

> > person parks on council property knowing fine

> well

> > that parking isnt sanctioned & gets tocket to

> > prove

> >

> > Person gets clamped / fined

> >

> >

> > anyone ?

>

>

> Hold on that should read "person parks on public

> property knowing"


no

thebeard Wrote:


> You're very funny but not too clever or you?re a

> poor reader.



Damn straight, I'm thick as pig shit. But what snorky said.


All this tosh about councils up and down the land penalising road users and setting traps to make money out of them - I've got a suggestion: STICK IT TO THE MAN - don't do the things that get you fined, that'll learn 'im.


I may be simple, but I've learned from Catchphrase to say what I see, say what I see.

Rosie - A girl once said to me, you remind me of someone famous - I hoped for a positive outcome - she came back a while later and said - I know who it is now - you remind me of Roy Walker! shocked I was - but I said:

"Sorry love, you're close, but you're not right. Say what you see, here it is again"

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