peckham hi st

[woodie]

there was a post here this morning, i skimmed I think its gone,warning of traffic chaos. I assumed it would be ok now down there but very much isnt 11.43am. The accident is horrific, i still feel ill from my journey to the bank.Stay away.

A presumption of mine alone is that i think whoever was riding the bike they were mangled with may have thought the lorry was

just one truck. it was 2 large containers. yet, it was turning (sure its allowed to) into that really small road by burger king /liddells, when the accident happened. Big vehicle to be going up that road.looked very fatal.

[HAL9000]

woodie Wrote:

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> A presumption of mine alone is that i think

> whoever was riding the bike they were mangled with

> may have thought the lorry was just one truck.

> it was 2 large containers

I did not see the accident. My presumption is based on the aftermath. It looked to me as though the cyclist was on the left of the lorry and collided with the first flatbed as it cut across her path when it began to turn left into Bellenden Road. The impact was close to the junction but the bike and rider were dragged a few metres along the side street before coming to rest under the rear double axel of the first flatbed.

Edited to clarify after receiving conflicting reports.

[skidmarks]

Sounds absolutely terrible, poor lady.

All too familiar I?m afraid. Female rider to the left of a goods vehicle waiting to move off at traffic lights. Both move off together, lorry turns left over ahead bound cyclist.

People question why cyclists jump traffic lights or move ahead of the traffic queue to get in front of traffic as well. The police should enforce the advance cycle stop lines at traffic signals more rigorously; these are specifically designed for cyclists to avoid this type of collision, however, drivers (especially black cab drivers) seem to think its their god given right to occupy these areas.

This TfL fact sheet makes informative reading

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/PC-Cas-Factsheet-Final-1986-2007.pdf

[jctg]

F---ing hell, this is awful. You have to be SO aware of what is going on around you as a cyclist. Of course I make no assumptions as to whether this poor woman was wearing an iPod or not but I see so many cyclists wearing headphones. You cannot be in your own little world listening to music when you're cycling. Although maybe this is the wrong/time place for this mini rant.

[Moos]

jctg, it may be.

Please can everyone be careful what they say on the forum regarding this terrible accident. The victim's family will probably read the accounts here sooner or later.

My sincere condolences to this poor lady's family and friends.

[jctg]

I know, I'm sorry. It's just as a commuting cyclist myself when you hear about another cyclist being involved in an accident, particularly if it happened somewhere you know well, it makes me feel a certain kinship with fellow cyclists.

[louisiana]

jctg Wrote:

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> F---ing hell, this is awful. You have to be SO

> aware of what is going on around you as a cyclist.

> Of course I make no assumptions as to whether this

> poor woman was wearing an iPod or not but I see so

> many cyclists wearing headphones. You cannot be in

> your own little world listening to music when

> you're cycling. Although maybe this is the

> wrong/time place for this mini rant.

It is.

Few cyclists wear anything on their ears.

Far too many - female - cyclists get mown down - and often killed - by left-turning juggernauts.

Please show some respect.

[jctg]

I was making no assumption about the cause of this accident. My post was an emotional reaction to reading this thread. This is the wrong thread to discuss cycling do's/don'ts so maybe we should just end it here.

[louisiana]

This thread is about an accident.

[*Tee*]

I hope she pulls through, and makes it into full recovery.

Went pass this morning, was totally horrified by her bike which was literally right under the lorry and almost un-recognizable as a bicycle.People just standing around staring at the scene. I had to tell off a man who decided to take photos of this poor ladys bike on his mobile phone.

"you have no shame" i told him, as i turned on my heels and went home.

I feel so nervous to venture out on my bike now. I have a shiny new bike just completed my cycle training, and was ready to tackle my morning commute. bioycle accidents where women are mowed down really does make me think long and hard about biking into work on my own. I have everything i need to start my commute, but still keep putting it off.