Angel of Southwark ripped from her place in woods.

[edborders]

Yesterday the Angel of Southwark was removed from her place in the woods at Camberwell Old Cemetery - barely two days after the council rejected calls for the community to be consulted about the destruction of 10 acres of woods and monuments. She deserves better. Click here to see photos: http://www.lewisschaffer.co.uk/save/

Today is a fantastic day to see the woods and the remaining monuments. If you cannot go please have a 90 second video fly-over and fly-through. Click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b76wj7BO8yI

There will be planning meeting for those who want to save the woods, preserve the monuments and make the cemeteries nature reserves, with respect for the people who are buried there. Please come and help us decide what to do next. Click here for more information: http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/

Wednesday 7:30PM July 15th

The Rose Pub

108 Forest Hill Road,

SE22 0RS

Lewis Schaffer

Nunhead tree and ancient monument lover

[Loz]

I just googled "Angel of Southwark". Two hits - one this thread and one unrelated hit from Chicago.

What is this? Why has no one heard of it? Why is this particular statue important?

[Rolo Tomasi]

It's all made up. Like Southwark Woods itself.

[Sue]

Why has a new thread been started when there is already discussion here:

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1533238

This issue is also being posted on on a Nunhead Facebook page, also in an apparent attempt to stir up anti-council feeling.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nunheadrocks/?fref=ts

What has any of this got to do with Nunhead?

ETA: And isn't "ripped" rather an emotive word to be using?

ETA: I have just been walking in proper woods, a mere stone's throw from this cemetery. Sydenham Woods and Dulwich Woods are already there. A cemetery is for burying people in.

[Mustard]

Where was this statue before it ended up lying down?

[nununoolio]

Lost the plot??

[edborders]

A walk through an improper wood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3eDMdSsk5s

[Mustard]

Looks like some hogweed growing in the wooded area.

[spark67]

while passing through the cemetery on my way home from work I noticed a few old plots fenced off with fresh concrete on top,with a notice saying fresh foundations were being laid for old unsafe monuments which will be reinstated on top when the new foundations have set.. isn't this whats happening to the ones in the photos ?

[Sue]

spark67 Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> while passing through the cemetery on my way home

> from work I noticed a few old plots fenced off

> with fresh concrete on top,with a notice saying

> fresh foundations were being laid for old unsafe

> monuments which will be reinstated on top when the

> new foundations have set.. isn't this whats

> happening to the ones in the photos ?

Probably.

But it's much more dramatic to suggest that the council are "ripping" the "Angel of Southwark" (aka a statue on top of a grave, of which there are many in Southwark's cemeteries) from her rightful place, for some nefarious reason.

[spark67]

Mystery solved...as I mentioned before, they are renovating not destroying. This is the sign on the fence around the removed monuments (including the angel, which is just out of shot and is the other side to where I think the poster took their picture from)

It's the same as the signs I mentioned that I saw above on some plots with fresh concrete on top.

Seems its a case of the total opposite to what was originally posted ?

Nothing to see here, move a long ;)

[Sue]

So will the OP now apologise on here and on Facebook for giving out totally misleading information?

I'm not holding my breath.

Thanks for giving us the facts, spark67.

[robbin]

Apologise ED Borders!

Or at least admit that your posting was a load of old bollocks.

Did you not see that sign?

[Jeremy]

From the linked blog post:

This desecration was done Friday, 10 July 2015 ... The council is removing gravestones to sell off the plots. Where the headstones will go, we don?t know. What is driving this abomination, we don?t know.

 

[kiera]

I'm not excusing the original poster for trying to mislead people, but, I went into the cemetery last Sunday (12th) and there were definitely no signs to explain to the public why the monuments had been removed.

[Jeremy]

It was fair enough for the OP to point it out, but we could do without the conspiracy theories and fictional proper nouns.

[spark67]

I noticed the same sign on a fence around one of the graves a monument had been removed from near the entrance on the friday (10th) I only noticed the sign on the actual fence around the removed monuments this week, so if it wasn't clear then I couldn't blame the poster for being upset if they care about the cemetery, I have noticed the council have now put signs on the entrance gates as well in the last few days, probably seen this thread.