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What went wrong quids? Did you really lay rip van winkle?or was it something else? I just don't see the fun in laying the whole fun for me is to get the odd decent win now and again which puts everything right.as you said to me once 10 profitable laid bets can all go in one losing lay. However in a big handicap that is probably a good time to lay most of the field. As a backer I find big handicaps are the ones to avoid.anyone know when Rip is running next I want to chase the dragon.

MM - laying is THE rush...real balls needed ;-)


Laying does show you how much bollocks real bookies have - (not the corporate fellas)


West Ham/spurs f*cked me up laying ?10 at 5.6 for under 1.5 goals, 1-0 to THEM and Defoe got it....three lots of pain



I didn't lay RVW I bet the 2nd favourite

Tempted by Chelski @ 11/5 to win the Premiership, even though I'm a diehard Utd fan, to win the league 4 years running is a big ask, physically and emotionally it must catch up with the players, I thought some of them just didn't turn up in the Champs League final. Liverpool flattered last season and Alonso will be hard to replace, Arsenal have too much ground to make up and are selling their best players, and Citeh will need time for all the new players to bed in.


EW bets for other divisions - QPR @ 18's, MK @ 10's and obviously Notts C @ 5's...

I think MM returns to Blighty today but I'm off on my hols tomorrow with no internet so won't be participating in the US open; licking my wounds on the nags; preparing my football bets.


In the meantime sitting on a few long terms looking ok for trading- Pompey down and Aussies for the Ashes.


See ya punters.

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