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I am going to step in here and ask people to please tone it down. If you find posts offensive please report them to me (click the "Report This Message" link under the message), all reports are in confidence and the management will keep an eye on this particular issue and act if necessary.
daizie

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'lindylou wrote'


TLS I HATE YOU. So stick that up your bum and smoke it. Edited to say GET OFF AND STAY OFF> Obviously you are going to say nasty things, but, do you know what... go to hell in a hand cart because you deserve it...


'CrystalClear wote'


Both of you @#$%& OFF. YOUR @#$%& @#$%&. I HOPE YOU'RE BARRED FROM THE FORUM THIS ISNT A REASONABLE VIEW, THIS IS SCUM, SPREADING THE WORD OF SCUM. YOU @#$%& @#$%&.


I wish I was sober and could be arsed to spend a few hours on facts, but that's life. @#$%& OFF THE BOTH YOU.




@#$%& @#$%& shit @#$%& why can't I @#$%& swear.


post script - I can say shit? Really? Tony/Steve - you're shit.



Shame on you both. I hope you've both been warned .



'LegalEagle-ish wrote'



The racist crap Tony and Steve come out with is always offensive


Legal, seeing as you are off the sauce, could you point out or quote Tony's racist comments ?

The accusation of racism is a severe one. I cant see any racist remarks anywhere on this thread. Please point it out or quote it . Thanks

Santerme

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My limited understanding of this issue is that asylum seekers are administered by the UK Border Agency, that accomodation is directly contracted by the UKBA with local authorities and private providers.


Asylum seekers have no input into where in the country they will end up, and that this process is totally seperate to social housing lists.


Only once they have been granted leave to remain or refugee status do they appear in the normal way on the housing list.


I can see no reason why this is a problem.


As for being the most desired destination.


In 2006 there were almost 600,000 registered refugees with the UNHCR, almost 300,000 wanted to travel to Europe, only 26,000 wanted to come to the UK.


Having some little experieince of refugee movements in some interesting places around the world, I can say that the vast majority of refugees end up in the adjoining country, and overwhelmingly they want to return to their homes as soon as possible, even if to just eek out a subsistance living from their own soil.


It is also interesting to note and I have only managed to see figures for a decade ago, but back in 1998/9 refugees to this country actually made a contribution of 10% more in tax and NI than the services they consumed.


53% of refugees have academic qualifications, roughly 30% have first or post graduate degrees.


65% speak more than two languages in addition to their own.


Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud, Michael Marks (the founder of M%S) were all asylum seekers in their day.


Alec Issigonis, creator of that icon of Britain in the 60's, a refugee.



Perhaps, I have strayed too far from the initial thread intent!

Whynniard

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yes well, its all very good but the services in this country are a complete joke and getting worse, overpopulated or not,

Since boris took the reigns London is positively falling apart. You cannot get a tube at weekends now and it's been like that for a while.

Tony.London Suburbs

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To re-iterate my view I'm reproducing what I wrote earlier today on another thread.


As you will see my comments have far more relevance to this thread.


"Nearly all immigrants have made difficult decisions, worked hard and made sacrifices to make a new life, often struggling to adapt to a new culture, raising families under difficult circumstances, studying/improving qualifications, making professional advancements, gaining useful skills.


They have too, sometimes, encounter prejudice, invisible walls and, in the much wider Society outside East Dulwich, a commonly held view that they do not belong here, or should not be here at all.


It certainly can't be easy and many make it, despite , not because of the system in the UK.


They deserve the utmost praise.


Knowing the above, however, does not stop me believing that, as by definition ( almost), every Refugee and Asylum Seeker is regarded as "homeless", that they then should automatically join the, relatively, small proportion of people of existing Brits who are also near the top of the Housing Points system as they are categorised in the same way and ABOVE everybody else who are already on the system and waiting and are not regarded as homeless.


Those people now pushed further down below them are also in need, sometines desperately so, and, by definition, their time on the Housing waiting list MUST be increased for every occassion that a person considered "homeless" is placed above them.


Obviously this problem has been exarcerbated by the widespread sale of housing stock.


The salient point is that while only a cetain percentage of people in need, currently on the national housing lists are regarded as homeless, nearly every Refugee and Asylum Seeker is regarded as such, and placed at the forefront of the queue, accordingly, joining everyone else who is categorised as such.


I do not agree that this is right."

Santerme

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I am not going to repeat mine...


However, continual repetition of theories without substantation is a bit like an inebriated man trying to drink himself sober Tony.


All the evidence is against your assertions and you are basing your arguments of hearsay not trackable data.

Tony.London Suburbs

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Santerme Wrote:

I am not going to repeat mine...However, continual repetition of theories without substantation is a bit like an inebriated man trying to drink himself sober Tony. All the evidence is against your assertions and you are basing your arguments of hearsay not trackable data.


Point taken regarding Asylum Seekers Santerme but Refugees, nearly all by definition, regarded as "Homeless" would automatically go the top of our Points based system and join the relatively small percentage of people already on the list at the forefront of the housing stock queue would they not?


So all those already on any existing queue which they joined would have to wait longer accordingly.


Now add to that all the people who have come to The UK over, say, the last 50 years, a proportion of which would also be categorised as homeless and they, over the years that this system has been in place, would also, be at the forefront of the queue that they joined and everyone of those people would have pushed further down the existing queue all the people already on it.


Would you say that this priority treatment is right?

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