kids company closure on news

[Peckhamrye]

Hi Edhitory, I saw an advert from The Sherbourne Trust looking for new tenants.

[edhistory]

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmpubadm/433/433.pdf

[Lynne]

I agree with Ratty. Don't give a narcissist ?40 million pounds.

[JohnL]

Sky/BBC (can't remember which) had a charities expert on who said

the issue was that NOT enough was spent on administration and

back office - It all went to the cause.

[Grok]

Dodgy, crooked, dangerous organisatiin from day 1. Glad its gone.

[Earl Aelfheah]

"Kids Company did provide valuable support to many vulnerable young people, albeit the evidence shows that this was on a considerably smaller scale than it claimed in its publications and annual reports. The failures in governance that led to the collapse of the charity should not detract from the commitment and hard work of many highly dedicated individuals who worked in the organisation. e charity?s consistent message, that vulnerable children and young people must be supported with compassion and personalised care, must not be lost with the collapse of Kids Company and criticisms about the appropriateness and e ectiveness of some of its methods."

[Saffron]

Grok Wrote:

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> Dodgy, crooked, dangerous organisatiin from day 1.

> Glad its gone.

Apply the same measure to our current government perhaps?

[civilservant]

i was interested to hear that they thought they had several times more clients than actually proved to be the case.

when i heard the original estimate, i can remember wondering where all these kids came from

I've wondered how the original estimate was arrived at - but whether this was a genuine mistake or a cunning attempt to inflate the perceived need, it raises strong concerns about the organisation's accountability and governance

[Loz]

I think I read somewhere it was a bit of creative accounting, where not only the child was counted, but their parents, brothers, sisters, other family members etc, on account they were also 'helped' by them working with a single child.

[uncleglen]

Apparently it cost the taxpayer ?42 million over the 10 years. It seems to have been bullet-proof like all the famous paedos....

[ratty]

Camilla's kids. We had a 22 yr old come to us shortly after the collapse of KC. One of Cammilla's kids. They had been paying for her to live in a ?2k per month riverside flat. Once they closed the YP faced eviction. Local Housing Allowance would stretch to just over ?400 for a room in a shared house.

She had a breakdown of course.

Perfect example of Kids Club in my experience.

[ratty]

Not the poor woman on the documentary tonight I hasten to add after watching it.

[robbin]

I agree with the narcissist comment above. I thought she was given quite an easy time in that documentary, but even so Camilla came across as a narcissist in denial. She kept on about the kids, but it seems it was in reality so much about her. It seemed like KC was a personality cult with whatever she said being the law. The trustees (or at least some of them) are a disgrace for failing that charity, its donors and those of its beneficiaries who were truly in need. They appear to me to have disregarded their legal responsibilities to run a charity properly and with proper respect and regard for the fact that people were donating money to it for a proper purpose.

Camilla seemed to have nothing but contempt for 'bean counters' (i.e. proper accounts and governance) and no remorse whatsoever - that was the most difficult part to stomach.