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LondonMix Wrote:

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> Are you serious. Nicotine at high doses is lethal

> and nicotine poisoning can happen at relatively

> low concentrations in small children.

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> Lowlander Wrote:

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> > OK, can I make it clear - tobacco, burned and

> > inhaled, is lethal (i.e. cigarettes and rolling

> > tobacco).

> >

> > Nicotine on its own is not lethal. And if it

> is

> > ingested in ways other than inhaled is far less

> > addictive.


Same goes for caffeine, alcohol, vitamin E and a host of other things. But lets differentiate between the odd cigar or pipe and cigarettes or vaping. I had my new year cigar and had a lovely nicotine buzz...no inhaling, and not risk free - bur it I've no desire to have another for 6-12 months (or never again for that matter).

Nicotine is scientifically proven to be an addictive substance. Just because some people don't develop an addiction doesn't negate that. That is the case for all addictive substances including heroin.


I'm not saying vaping should be illegal but it has risks and its addictive and serves no useful purpose except helping people quit a more dangerous activity: smoking. For these reasons it shouldn't be available to those underage and it shouldn't be advertised. More pupils have tried vaping than have actually tried smoking. There is a BBC article on it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33635571

Agreed. Vaping should not be advertised as an alternative to smoking, but as an aid to quitting. It's also worth pointing out that E-cigs only started appearing after several countries/ states etc started to introduce smoking bans in public places. Proof as if any were needed that only legislation can force manufacturers to change. We shouldn't be afraid to demand regulation.

Yes, agreed, I should have said ads should only be allowed showing it as an aid to quitting smoking. I 100% agree that's fine.


Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Agreed. Vaping should not be advertised as an

> alternative to smoking, but as an aid to quitting.

> It's also worth pointing out that E-cigs only

> started appearing after several countries/ states

> etc started to introduce smoking bans in public

> places. Proof as if any were needed that only

> legislation can force manufacturers to change. We

> shouldn't be afraid to demand regulation.

  • 10 months later...

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Agreed. Vaping should not be advertised as an

> alternative to smoking, but as an aid to quitting.



I can't see any exclusive contradictions between these two points. Vaping can be both an alternative way to deliver nicotine into one?s body, a less harmful substitute to traditional tobacco smoking, _and_ an aid to reduce consumption of the addictive substance for those who want such quitting. There are many eliquids http://gypsyvapes.com/Top-ELiquid-EJuice-Brands with zero nicotine, just water solution of PG/VG mixture and flavor.

  • 2 years later...

Hi there.

I usually read the latest news and studies on quitting smoking, vaping and cannabis industry here at Vapingdaily.

For example, this article https://vapingdaily.com/marijuana-side-effects/. By the way, my friend quit smoking thanks to vaping. So now I'm not so skeptical about that.

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