East Dulwich CPZ revenue collection

[edhistory]

As requested.

[TheArtfulDogger]

Great drawing, but confused by who requested it and is it in response to any (yet again) scheme by Southwark to introduce a cpz (despite being rejected by residents multiple times before)

[rabbitears]

Go on then, OP, what profit does the CPZ make?

[James Barber]

Hi TheArtfulDogger,

I've not heard of any new proposal for a CPZ in East Dulwich.

But a new one is going in around North Dulwich station.

[James Barber]

Hi rabbitears,

The obvious profit of the permit per vehicle. Controlled Parking on council estate permits are from memory charged at ?20 each pa to cover the cost of issuing them. Effectively the same permit on public highway are charged at ?125 each. So direct profit of ?105 per permit.

The council then makes money from issuing parking tickets.

2014 again from memory Barnet increased their permit charge from a low to a similarly high cost. It was challenged in the High Court and Barnet council lost on the basis the fee should only cover the admin cost of issuing such permits.

Hope this helps.

[sjsl]

Last chance to raise any objections to the North Dulwich CPZ (closes this Thursday 21st Jan)... you can fill in a form at https://forms.southwark.gov.uk/ShowForm.asp?fm_fid=1081 I agree that CPZs are much more about creating a useful revenue stream than making it easier for residents to park.

[mikeb]

@sjsl, not sure it is possible to effectively object to this now - isn't it a done deal?

(btw, I agree with you. A CPZ tends to reduce total parking area and is only effective where a substantial amount of parking is from non-residents. No-one in their right mind would drive through Dulwich Village in the morning to park and ride at North Dulwich)

[sjsl]

mikeb they have approved it in principle, but you can still raise objections until Thursday, and they are obliged to at least read them, so do ? the more the merrier http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200140/parking_projects/3777/north_dulwich_and_denmark_hill_%E2%80%93_consultation_on_possible_new_zone don't expect it to make any difference though :(

[rabbitears]

James Barber Wrote:

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> Hi rabbitears,

> The obvious profit of the permit per vehicle...> Hope this helps.

Hi James

"obviously" revenue and profit are not the same thing. Hope this helps.

[Lowlander]

mikeb Wrote:

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> @sjsl, not sure it is possible to effectively

> object to this now - isn't it a done deal?

>

> (btw, I agree with you. A CPZ tends to reduce

> total parking area and is only effective where a

> substantial amount of parking is from

> non-residents. No-one in their right mind would

> drive through Dulwich Village in the morning to

> park and ride at North Dulwich)

I walk to North Dulwich daily and in the evenings there's a few station users who get into cars parked nearby.

[mikeb]

There would be more than a few spaces lost from converting unmarked streets to a CPZ.

Also, depending on where they are coming from (and given the poor service to LB via N and E Dulwich) they would almost certainly be better off using Sydenham Hill, Brockley or Tulse Hill ...