BA Strike

[ruffers]

matthew123 Wrote:

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> I agree - maybe it's the other airline staff who

> should be striking. Would the BA staff have

> striked if they knew they would lose their travel

> perks?

I think they knew they would, I knew before the strike and I'm not connected. It was very clear.

[Narnia]

Is not the bottom line that a loss making company will go bust if it doesn't cut it's cloth according to the prevailing economic conditions. BA staff will have no jobs to go to if they don't wake up. These days a job is better than no job.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I repeat - a company losing 700 million a year could look at it's head, paid 700 million a year and come up with options

cutting one's cloth can take many forms

[Narnia]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> I repeat - a company losing 700 million a year

> could look at it's head, paid 700 million a year

> and come up with options

>

> cutting one's cloth can take many forms

Who is paid ?700M a year?

[SeanMacGabhann]

Mr Walsh renumeration

approx

[Narnia]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Mr Walsh renumeration

>

> approx

Where did you get that figure from Sean? Who the fu*k is paid ?700M a year?

[woofmarkthedog]

Willie's got a "big packet"

[Narnia]

Right, so Sean meant ?700K not million, yet repeated it. There's a big difference.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Oh god it's true as well. And I must have realised as I was posting it. Ah well not much I can add now is there apart from I talk shite sometimes.

[Narnia]

Don't we all Sean!

[woofmarkthedog]

Narnia Wrote:

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> Don't we all Sean!

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No

Pure gold from my lips ((tu))

W**F

[SteveT]

Vinceayres wrote:-

On a purely selfish note I hope they do go bust as it would open up a lot of slots that they block other customer focused airlines from getting. I haven't flown BA for years as they are overpriced cr*p

I positively avoid using them too, and go to great lengths to find better, which is not too difficult unless you are travelling on all those routes they monopolise. Losing some of them has changed their fortune but not before time.

If they cannot find a way to compete on a day to day basis then they should be allowed to fail, I'm convinced it will be an improvement for the travelling public.

When they had the last strike I noticed that east dulwich became a quiet village with out all the plane noise. It seemed that predominantly BA were the ones who flew across London, and the sooner that stops the better off ED will be.

[Michael Palaeologus]

BA is relatively cash rich at the moment and is covering most of its flights either through its own resources, wet hire leased aircraft of through its OneWorld alliance partners.

It seems to have made a strategic decision that its short to medium term financial and goodwill losses will be out-weighed by getting rid of expensive and out-dated terms and conditions.

As each strike passes BA will become better at covering its flights, whilst Unite will run out of funds for strike-pay which is currently being paid to Strikers.

I think that Unite members will find themselves worse off than if they had accepted some reduction in terms and confitions through negotiation. However back to work they will eventually have to go.

Willie Walsh was brought in to do this very thing, as he did with Aer Lingus, which was a loss making, formerly state owned airline that would have gone bust if it hadnt been pruned. See KLM, Sabena, Swissair, Maersk, Alitalia, etc as examples of what happends when it all goes wrong - they all went bust, a few of the brands have been brought back, but not as new, small airlines, not as major players.

[SteveT]

MP wrote:-

See KLM, Sabena, Swissair, Maersk, Alitalia, etc as examples of what happends when it all goes wrong - they all went bust, a few of the brands have been brought back, but not as new, small airlines, not as major players.

In this global circus BA cannot compete and are deluding themselves if they think they can compare with Cathay Pacific, whom in my opinion are better organized, give more leg room, are cheaper, and provide superb consumer service, other than those few minor points there is little difference.

[Michael Palaeologus]

They can compete, because like Cathay Pacific they are based in a major transport node at the edge of a huge continent which is also a major destination point in its own right (Britain vs Hong Kong). Leg room, etc are not reasons for BA going out of business.

They have the experience, the profile and importantly, the slots to be successfull. They also have a mill-stone round their necks which has killed off those former state owned airlines that didnt manage to modernise.