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SteveT Wrote:

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> Shhh careful what you say reggie, they might put

> one of those things that they put on Salmon

> Rushdee...........Do'h



D'oh indeed!


Now, Mr. T...re:


Posted by: SteveT Today, 12:54PM

I have yet to find it beneficial to my cause, to have the law on my side reggie.


Erm...what "cause" would that be?


*awaits response with impatience*

SteveT

I have just googled fatwa and found that they are rarely bad and are mostly clarifications of Islamic law made by an Islamic scholar.

I am confident that if a fatwa was issued to Sly and Reggie it would be....'turn it up'

Some music

I also read this in wikipedia


"In 2005, the Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued the Fatwa that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that Iran shall never acquire these weapons."

reggie Wrote:

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> I also read this in wikipedia

>

> "In 2005, the Leader of the Islamic Republic of

> Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued the Fatwa

> that the production, stockpiling and use of

> nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that

> Iran shall never acquire these weapons."



*huge burst of laughter*


You've just reminded me of that fabulous comedienne from Iran (sorry forgotten her name)...she commented once that "the British" always seemed to get Iraq and Iran confused...and then went on to say that she couldn't understand why...distinguishing between the two countries was easy...she said:


Iran is the country WITH the weapons of mass destruction!


(Well I found that funny).

Ladymuck Wrote:



> *huge burst of laughter*

>

> You've just reminded me of that fabulous

> comedienne from Iran (sorry forgotten her

> name)...she commented once that "the British"

> always seemed to get Iraq and Iran confused...and

> then went on to say that she couldn't understand

> why...distinguishing between the two countries was

> easy...she said:

>

> Iran is the country WITH the weapons of mass

> destruction!

>

> (Well I found that funny).


Shappi Khorsandi - and yes I found that line hilarious too. She is totally brilliant, clever and funny.

I think criminalising the membership is wrong, its just giving them a false sense of importance and credence....having lived overseas, I really do value the freedom of speech in the UK!

northlondoner Wrote:

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>...Off

> topic I know, but still.....



It's OK...you are allowed to go "off topic" in the Lounge (the main reason why I didn't post this in the Drawing Room!!).

Sorry to interrupt you a minute reggie *cheeky grin*



katie1997 Wrote:

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> I think criminalising the membership is wrong, its

> just giving them a false sense of importance and

> credence....having lived overseas, I really do

> value the freedom of speech in the UK!


katie1997, where were you living...and was the "freedom" very different?


OK...floor's all yours again reggie...

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Sorry to interrupt you a minute reggie *cheeky

> grin*

>

>

> katie1997 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > I think criminalising the membership is wrong,

> its

> > just giving them a false sense of importance

> and

> > credence....having lived overseas, I really do

> > value the freedom of speech in the UK!

>

> katie1997, where were you living...and was the

> "freedom" very different?

>

> OK...floor's all yours again reggie...



Saudi, India, and yes it definitely has a different feel in the UK/West....we take soooo much for granted I think (not intentionally I just feel differently by my overseas experiences and appreciate more the fact we can peacefully protest, say what we think, dress how we like, do what we want) :)


*gives floor back to reggie again*

karter Wrote:

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> LM, good thread btw.



I know...can't remember what it's about though...oh dear I've a dreadful feeling I might have a PM in my inbox from Admin. tomorrow morning...feel so tiddly...oh dear oh dear...what did I Have to drink? Must have been the crisps...yeah definitely the crisps...how many packets did I consume? Ummm they were good though...

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