Changes to train times between ED & LB

[ksh]

Train times between East Dulwich and London Bridge seem to have changed and also reduced in number.

Any one know if these are permanent changes?

[Cedges]

Discussed here

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1363222

[ksh]

Thanks.

I had assumed that was only relevant for last week whilst LB was shut.....obviously not.

[BrandNewGuy]

Here's the relevant bit:

The key peak services now will be:

East Dulwich to London Bridge (curtailed services to S Bermondsey) marked as '-'):

07:09

07:20

07:30

07:40

07:50

-

08:10

08:20

08:30

-

08:51

London Bridge to East Dulwich:

17:10

17:25

17:40

17:57

18:10

18:30

18:40

[ksh]

Many thanks.

Shame they're doing this, just means the trains will be even more cramped!

[Angharad_L]

So ANNOYING. Took me an hour and a half to get to work today. 8.40 train stops in South Bermondsey, the 8.41 from Peckham was cancelled and the Northern line was shut! Argh

[BrandNewGuy]

Actaully, the 08.51 wasn't too crowded this morning. At some point I'm sure they'll restore the "every ten minutes-ish" frequency, but with all the work going on at LB, it's inevitable there will be inconvenient tweaks. Platforms 12 and 13 are now open and it looks like there's plenty of space on shared platform 13 and 14. I only hope the same will be true for platform 15 when they've completed work on the new side entrance.

[ksh]

Have they said they are going to restore the "every ten minutes-ish" service at some point?

[BrandNewGuy]

No, but there's no reason to think they won't when the works are completed. The two morning trains are stopping short at South Bermondsey because of rush hour congestion at LB due to closed platforms.

[spanglysteve]

I don't really see the point of stopping services short at SB. In reality, who is choosing to ride to SB and then continuing their journey from there?

[ksh]

Agree, seems totally pointless.

Think I'll voice my opinions to some poor unexpecting member of staff next time i see one.

[BrandNewGuy]

spanglysteve Wrote:

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> I don't really see the point of stopping services

> short at SB. In reality, who is choosing to ride

> to SB and then continuing their journey from

> there?

Well some people are - I see quite a number of people normally get off at SB. Plus others want to go to QRP to change to the Overground. The short-stopping trains in fact do carry on (empty) to LB then come straight back out empty ? as there's obviously nowhere to turn round at SB :-)

[spanglysteve]

If they do continue to LB why not just run it full service in that case. It would only add a couple of minutes for the train to disembark. No need to run full service back (allowing time for boarding) as presumably the demand is far less leaving LB in the morning.

[cle]

You could hide...

[BrandNewGuy]

spanglysteve Wrote:

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> If they do continue to LB why not just run it full

> service in that case. It would only add a couple

> of minutes for the train to disembark. No need to

> run full service back (allowing time for boarding)

> as presumably the demand is far less leaving LB in

> the morning.

It's those few minutes that add to congestion at that time in the morning.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Just a heads up, although the new timetable is accurate in terms of departures, real life arrivals bear no resemblance to it. Add 10-15 minutes.

[MarkE]

@RRR - it's interesting this has a feel of the experience we had before Platform 14-15 were reopened. Queues to get into LBG which weren't so prevalent since Easter when 14-15 were partitioned from the rest due to 12-13 being shut.

Now that 12-15 are all open again, there's probably more demand for track and signals on the same sections of track which have a knock-on impact to the rest of the services.

I'm also noticing waits to depart South Bermondsey in the evenings, which hasn't been there in the past.

Next big change due at Christmas, so this could be a feature of the next four months...

[AD]

Agree re arrivals, the 14 minute train ride now seems to take nearly 25 minutes.

[MarkE]

Just found out that some of the outbound trains from London Bridge are actually timetabled to wait at South Bermondsey for five minutes... Presumably to avoid clashing with the overground services down the line. Wonderful scheduling.

[Monkey]

Would be fine if trains scheduled to run actually ran. Delays again tonight. 30mn wait for a train. Fire at streatham and some other train delayed due to no driver. Can't they get a sodding grip?

[philosophie]

The situation is a total shocker. An absolutely horrible experience and taking ages to get home every day. Who can we complain to? I don't feel like just putting up with this for the next x number of years!

[Wottajoke]

I honestly don't think complaining wilol do any good whtsoever. I was annoyed yesterday when I saw train ended at SB. I wanted to get to Camden and normally I get the Northern line from LB but had to get bus to the Elephant and caught the tube. As it turned out the journey was good and quick but then it was a Sunday.

[Monkey]

More delays for me tonight. Need to investigate alternative routes... I see people are using #southeasternfail on twitter to try and coordinate some campaign. Might start using it.

[KidKruger]

What's the deal now with morning journeys to LB - for trains before 7-8am from ED , are they taking 15 mins, 30mins ?

I need to pop-up tomoro for first time in a whole (at this time).

[Earl Aelfheah]

Honestly, trains into London Bridge are now completely random. Forget the timetable, Just make sure that you give yourself plenty of time.