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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-gaza-deal-b1252133.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1760028650. -
I'm finding this rather bizarre, rather than be cautiously optimistic some of you look at this to have an opportunity to have a go at Starmer and Trump. The former has to adopt an approach this involves flattery to get any influence over the most powerful person in the world. Sure he could and should have gone harder in terms of Gaza and opposing the genocide, and there are some questions over some arms sales. I expect now we have vicars as terrorists the PA decision will prove wrong. There are those in his own party who will continue to press him on this. 48 percent of the country say they would vote for a right wing party if their was an election today. Farage reportedly has denied that there is a genocide ongoing in Gaza and said he would not block any weapons exports to Israel if Reform UK came to power. Badenoch's own words (on X) Recognising a Palestinian state won't bring the hostages home, won't end the war and won't get aid into Gaza. So it's reasonable to assume that around half the country would not support a stronger stance on criticising Israel's action. I don't have a lot of good things to say about Trump. Yet if he can or has brought about a stable solution in Gaza then that will be great news. That he didn't do this earlier, and in my view caused so many problems with the move of their embassy which in turn may have emboldened Hamas, remain valid issues, as do what the US is going to get out of it. As regards to earlier debate. Israel protecting the UK from Iran just sounds bizarre. The UK's position is that extensive diplomacy and a deal is the way forward. Yes there are so many other conflicts in the world that don't get the same level of attention. But how many of these are directly due to a western democracy's extreme military action and starvation against a territory? I'm with the march in spirit but for apathy or whatever reason wont be there. For those of you who consider it is antisemitic go and join the march and see. I went to one of the large earlier demos and there was such a friendly and positive spirit despite the cause. Yet the media pick on the occasional extreme incident, highly selective. I'd prefer of they called it a peace protest rather than a pro-Palestine march. I think it is right to look at the immediate desperate situation, and decouple from the longer term - albeit that the two station solution has to be the way forward and Israeli settlements are wrong. Hopefully once there is a proper peace Netanyahu will go one way or another (I'm taking prosecution). -
Starmer hasnt said that’s far as I can see? About Trump deserving the Nobel prize I mean -
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