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Mockney - too late, it already has unfortunately, but even in the States this 'freedom' from the state doesn't seem to apply when it comes to pissed-off-chav crowd control.

I've never had a mortgage or house insurance. Just buy cheap crap no-one would want to burgle and buy a big dog, that should do the trick.

One thing I noticed was that Marmite lovers seem to like Marmalade and Peanut butter too. I love both, especially thick cut orange marmalade. The best one used to be Olde English, but Lidl do a cheap brand one that is even better than the original it's copying. I go through a jar a week!! Mmmmm

I am against hierarchical structures myself and in the Green Party there is a big thing about localsism as being the only way to really survive in a sustainable way, but there would need to be some central government (with reps accountable to their local people) to ensure minorites are not abused and to prevent domination by one interest at the expense of others. I don't have all the answers, and in reality no-one can have, we need to be aware that as things change, the solutions to problems will change, but the fundamental structure of non-hierarchical localism needs to be kept to ensure all our heads work togther and everyone is empowered to keep finding the best solutions.

Most of the people I know refer to the bendy bus as the 'free bus'. Now it's my turn to run for cover!

There is Jamaican restaurant called 'Lincoln's Inn' on Maxted Road, just before you get to Belleneden Road that always looks shut (but isn't he's just a bit shy!) and really good food at a very reasonable price. It's a one man operation so service isn't always as quick as you might like, but Lincoln is a great cook and a really nice guy. He does some English food too. Only downside is that it's not open on Sundays.

But from within a capitalist society, and was therefore, at least in part, a reaction to it.

I think that materialist interpretation of the world was a reaction to the capitalist materialist interpretation of the world and doesn't actually describe the true nature of oppression which is much wider than as mere objects in the machinery that is the means of production. I need to catch a life in the morning! Goodnight

Haha yeh I never said you weren't boozy!

No I'm an anarchist, we all make up our own rules. I have decided that all my beer shall be free.

Don't ask me, I don't make the rules!

haha - ur not ugly Sean

Doodles - Class could define our relationship to power, not necessarily the relationship to the means of production.

Green anarchistsic type's lounge?

I don't believe in leaders, sorry.

When I was at Uni I had to go all the way to Oxford Circus on the 12 a few times, but once it took me over an hour and a half and I missed my lecture, so decided to cycle instead which only took me 40 minutes. I still cycle if I have to go into town, because I can't stand waiting around for buses that take aaaages to get anywhere! I use the 12 more now just to go to Peckham and back, or to collect my granddaughter from my daughter's place, but the only problems I've had is ugly, boozy men trying to chat me up a couple of times and if I have my dog with me, people giving me dirty looks because they don't like dogs on the bus, but I ignore them all anyway.

Can you just put your favourite DVD on, or do you have to do all that boring licence stuff?

I think in theory a local income tax could be a good thing, but it would be the same poor mugs shouldering the tax burden, while the wealthy pay for people to avoid it. I think the nice idea about a property tax, is that it's a bit difficult to hide a house so the owners would just have to cough up.

Jah - couldn't agree with you more. When I moved into my new house in Feb, my next door neighbour, the only other council tenant in my row of houses, gave me a welcome present, has given me stuff for my granddaughter and bones etc for the dog, they invited my daughter to their granddaughter's birthday party and helped me clear the jungle that was my back garden. The rest of my neighbours are all nice as it goes, but these ones who have been the most generous aren't working. I have friends with money but more friends who are broke (like me), and I find the ones who have little, care less about hording their money and tend to live for the day. When I had my own business and started making serious money (it's all gone now!) I helped everyone I knew, because I'd been broke before and knew how it felt. When I was later on my @rse, many of the people I'd helped were there for me. If my neighbour needs help with anything that is within my power to help with, I've got her back. Thats how you survive at the bottom, but people who have never had to struggle don't understand this way of banking.

Jonboy - "As to joining the political process - i would be able to only for a short while until the media dug into my less than squeaky history. I didn't spend my formative years planning to be a politician so now have "history". Oh well." If we allow the media to dictate who we should have as our politicians, or demand they are squeaky clean, then we will always have the same types of people running things and nothing will change. I've got a very dodgy past, which I declared, but still got selected to stand for the Green Party against Simon Hughes in the next election (probably cos I'm not gonna win anyway!!) We need to challenge this ivory tower attitude to politicians, and encourage people from all walks of life, with all kinds of backgrounds to stand up and get their voices heard by engaging in the political process if we ever want to stop the corruption and self-interest that is corroding our dying democracy.

Jonboy - "That duty is to spend my money wisely, and to ensure that the system works" - well join a political party (preferably the Green Party) and fight to decide where it should and shouldn't be spent. I actually want to punch myself because I'm finding myself in agreement with JB. This and previous governments use the tax system to fleece us all, and line the pockets of their business friends who in turn line theirs. I agree totally with redistribution of wealth, but not from the bottom up to the top as it is now! Kick the corrupt greedy b@st@rds out and take back the power we gave them!! Viva la Revolution, yeh I know I said this already today!

Let me appropriate some land and I'll be happy to discover self-discipline and take responsibility for my life and that of my family, but the anti-state-interventionists, would want the state to intervene and stop me. I'm not allowed to do it my way, I am only allowed to be free to look after me and mine within the constraints of their laws. I can't hunt or gather my food. I'm locked into a system in which I have no freedom, where the only thing important is economic growth benefiting the elite, who enact laws that stop us from taking what they have legally (cos they make the laws) appropriated from us. So until we get back real freedom, yeh I expect something back.

Big round of applause for our citizen there. Totally agree! You should join the green party mate!

Flagging other dogs poo with coloured flags seemed pretty grim to me

I just want to give you the ISEC definition of Globalisation cos i think it's spot on! 1: the process by which governments give away the rights of their citizens in favour of speculative investors and transnational corporations. 2. the erosion of wages, social welfare standards and environmental regulations for the sake of international trade. 3. the imposition worldwide of a consumer monoculture. Widely but falsely believed to be irrevocable. See also financial melt-down, casino economy, Third World debt, and race to the bottom. Individual companies have more wealth than many nation states, Mistsubishi, GM and Ford all have economies larger than Denmark, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, South Africa. Norway, Finland or Chile (to name a few) and corporate sales account for 2/3 of global trade. Trade and services agreements like WTO, NAFTA, FTAA and Gats all over-ride soveriegn states' powers to regulate their labour market, health & social services, environment and economy, so yes I'd like less intervention, by pulling out of all of these protections of corporate profit.