DaveR

"should be classed as offal." ?? offal = internal organs The whole point about these cuts is that they are cheaper. They have French names because British butchers never traditionally cut these parts as steaks, but onglet is well known in the US for example as hanger steak

http://thehawksmoor.com/locations/seven-dials/ On the basis that even a cheapish steak will cost you ?15, worth spending ?30 at Hawksmoor and going half as often (whether that's once a month or once very few years). It is that good. Closer to ED, tho still not really local, this place is excellent: http://www.santamariadelsur.com/ Actually in or near ED I'd go with Franklins, or the Palmerston.

"This is true but opposition is the way to establish a big enough involvement to have an impact on what does end up there, rather than only getting involved down the line when the process is much further along and more difficult to affect." I disagree. If your tag line is 'Save the Peckham Multi Storey' I suspect a lot of people will be immediately turned off - what's so great about a car park building?. "Save the cinema" would be better - it's more accurate, has wider appeal and has more chance of success IMHO.

It's pretty obvious that there's no architectural merit in the car park building itself, and that using empty floors for other activities is a stretch - as recognised above, "That is a challenge as running water, heat, and weather protection are needed". In those circumstances, "Saving the Peckham Multi-Storey" seems to me the wrong aim (and with increased chance of total failure). It would be better to focus on the intended use of the site and specific re-development proposals. There also needs to be a recognition that there is not going to be public money available to support the kinds of community stuff people want (none of the current occupants are publicly funded AFAIK).

Only being able to wink on one side is very common - it's linked to which is your dominant eye for 'sighting' It's also pretty common for your dominant eye to be on the opposite side from your dominant hand; lots of right handed people find they have to shoot left-handed because they can only close their right eye.

"I believe he can drag the political debate to the left and give airtime to many arguments that for too long have been subject to a centre-right consensus" "I am totally fed up with the establishment, which seems further and further disconnected to the majority of poeple. So I have voted for a cat which will be thrown amongst the pigeons and hopefully just highlight some alternitives." This just seems to me to be wishful thinking. If there is a centre right consensus (and the last election result suggests there is) Corbyn is going to be marginalised, and the Labour Party with him. If the majority are disconnected from 'the establishment (which tbh is a prett dated idea) then how come there is a centre right consensus? Apart from any of his more crazy ideas, Corbyn is going to get crucified for having ridden into the leadership on the back of public sector dominated strike happy trade unions, just like Ed M did. And half his MPs are going to be briefing against him from day one, and the press will lap it up. That's the reality - it's going to be bloody.

"Sweden found a more cost effective way to stick by it's principles, that's my point" And the outcome was policies that are closer to those of the UK conservative govt than those proposed by Jeremy Corbyn - that's my point.

"Let's talk about Sweden instead eh? With it's high taxes and great social care. A failed state? I don't think so." Would that be the same Sweden that faced a public debt crisis in the late 90s, largely due to its bloated welfare spending? That got rid of defined benefit public pensions 20 odd years ago? That has an essentially free market approach to healthcare, with private, for profit providers competing with public ones? That pioneered free schools? Or do you not know what you're talking about? Edited to add: On a serious note, all the Nordic nations, not just Sweden, recognised during the 90s that the welfare model they had been operating was unaffordable even with the high taxes that their populations were willing to pay. It is instructive to look at the various responses between different countries, although there are some common themes - wholesale reform of pensions and benefit systems, and an approach to public services based on outcomes rather than a specific form or source of provider. Closer to G Osborne than J Corbyn though.

"Anti_individual? Really? When corporate greed has hoovered wealth away from ordinary people? When the planets resources are bing wasted away whilst we engage on a binge of inbuilt obecelence? When we are increasingly being told what to think, trapped by cameras and surveillance and the options for escape to a free way of live are being increasingly narrowed by falling wages and higher costs of living? We are being turned into robots. What is the individual is a whole debate in itself but communities that work together often function better than ones that hide in gated compounds. Anti-freedom? Again really? The Housing Crisis, the banking crashes of the last 30 years, higher unemployment, the richest getting richer whilst the masses get comparative poorer. These are all the consequences of removing regulation for private corporations, whilst the state increase the regulation on the rest of us, the right to protest, the right park, the right to even fart. You see how making blanket statements about right and left gets you into trouble? Life, societies and economies are never that black and white. We do need some regeulation back - not all of it of course - but we do need some because we are on a trajectory that is making a lot of ordinary people poorer and ill. And the young, who have their whole lives ahead of them, are looking into an abyss of stundent debt, rip off landlords, low wages, no pension or employment protections and who knows, even a world without state healthcare and welfare. They will kick back and when they do, it won't be pretty." I'm afraid that my reaction to that it that it's soundbite rhetoric that fails to engage with the reality of the modern world, and actual evidence both from the UK and other countries about policies that work, and those that don't. It's easy to be apocalyptic, but if you want real-time chaos and disaster, look at Venezuela, a country that Corbyn and his fellow travellers have consistently held up as an ideal. Let's just say we disagree about most things, and, I hope, that you are happy to accept that my views are as sincere, considered and disinterested as yours.

Not a very hidden agenda: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200107/transport_policy http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200107/transport_policy/3623/our_cycling_strategy_cycling_for_everyone Southwark's transport policy is explicitly pro-bike and walking, and anti car. Most of what is being done re roads reflects that policy, at least in part. No conspiracy. Where planned works aren't completed on time, I think we can be fairly sure it's cock-up, or to be more accurate incompetence.

"I'm starting to feel like "Corbynmania" has taken such a hold, that if you don't support him you're automatically a right wing, Thatcherite, "I'm Alright Jack", selfish pig. FACT." Not so difficult to understand you feeling that way when three posts before yours we find: "You strike me as a bit of an I'm all right Jack anyway. Clearly you like inequality, and upward social mobility for the few. You like 90% of the UKs wealth being owned by the 1%. Bravo to you as well." Yet again, a comfortably off urban lefty with (I suspect) close to zero actual experience of the reality of inequality and/or social mobility dismisses anybody who believes that the poor are simply not well served by bloated big state high pending policies, that the recent history of NHS care scandals compared to flourishing free-ish schools throws real doubt on the general principle of centrally directed state provision of public services, and that Corbyn's hysterical anti-imperialism is actually offensive as well as being wrong. If you vote Corbyn I will think you are a fool, not for any reasons concerning his electability or my self-interest, but because I think he is obviously wrong about essentially everything important, and that behind the apparent decency and beige clothing he has exactly the same intolerant, anti-individual, ultimately anti-freedom tendencies as all of his ilk on the left.

I agree with lots of afrz's post, particularly in relation to overall design quality. The current application is not terrible in that regard IMHO, but it could be way better. I'm also sympathetic to more diverse retail space but that really is market-driven; my understanding is that the takeaway businesses previously on the parade were not pushed out to make way for re-development, but left for their own (differing) reasons, and I'm not sure about the viability of, for example, another cafe on that site. My earlier post was a response to a number of invitations to simply oppose the application, without any recognition that redeveloping the site is obviously desirable, and what we really want is for the planning authority to engage with the developers and get the best deal they can.

"Kids just run riot. They have no boundaries. and their mums are hardly likely to notice where they are or what they are up to. They are all getting bladdered" No stereotyping there. Well done.

"Many are northern, working class voters that the "win Surbiton at all costs" Labour Party have forgotten about." Agreed - and they are in seats that Labour already hold. Anybody in the Labour Party who thinks it can win an election without winning over Tory voters in Tory seats is kidding themselves. Look at the seats in Southern England and the 'posh' bits of the Midlands that Labour under Blair won in 1997 and continued to hold in 2005. Many of them went Tory or Lib Dem in 2010 and are now overwhelmingly Tory. How many of them will a Labour Party led by J Corbyn win? Zero, I predict.

Is it me, or is this thread going round in circles: "It is hilarious watching London lefties trying to persuade themselves that the General Election we had just a few weeks ago didn't really happen, and that there are 'huge swathes' of voters dying for a proper socialist party leader to vote for. And talk of 'establishment coups'. Priceless. Can I give everybody a quick reality check. Outside London, Labour took precisely one seat from the Tories in the whole of the South of England. And that was in Hove, which is as close to a 'London' seat outside the city itself as you can get. And Labour lost zero seats to UKIP, even indirectly. If the Labour Party has any aspirations to govern again, they need to throw Corbyn under the proverbial bus. Today."

Reflecting the above, I think its important to distinguish between the development of the site per se, which seems to me to be an obviously good thing, and the specific proposed development, which people might object to. The impact on current businesses is a red herring in planning terms.

"Perhaps they are actually vaguely representative of the majority of people who might vote in general elections." Didn't we just have one of those? Voted in a Conservative government IIRC

This is red devil's suggested route, roughly:

"Could say something similar about the Daily Mail and their support for Hitler and Oswald Mosley's black shirts prior to WW2 and their continued hatred of anything remotely foreign that is owned by Barclay brothers, a couple billionaire tax avoiding non-domiciles." You could say that. But people might ask you whether you can tell the difference between the pointy bit where your arm bends and the fleshy bit you sit on.

"Sputnik is an international multimedia news service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on 9 December 2013" Obviously a perfect source if you want to have your finger on the pulse of the British people.

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The fact that his ideas are considered to be > somehow extreme....." > > by 90% of the electorate Really? It depends whether you cherry pick the popular ones e.g. renationalise the railways, or consider the whole package: leave NATO, unilateral nuclear disarmament, support for Hamas/Hezbollah, abolish all free schools and selective schools, punitive income tax rates, relaxed immigration controls, a much easier ride for trade unions, and generally much more government intervention in the economy. The nearest thing to a Corbyn manifesto would be the notorious "suicide note" Foot manifesto, and would be likely to fare even worse today.

"The fact that his ideas are considered to be somehow extreme....." by 90% of the electorate "just demonstrates the degree to which the current political discourse...." on this thread "has become nothing more than...." the vain howling into the wind of the post-Blair frustrated pseudo socialists who are largely insulated from the real economic challenges facing the country and many of its people.

Where in FH to where in the City? Though there's probably a hill to go up and over whichever way you go!

I'm pretty sure that employee info (which would include records of a disciplinary investigation) are exempt from FOIA. It may be that your only way to get the info would be via a civil claim; if contested it would be disclosable, I expect.

It is hilarious watching London lefties trying to persuade themselves that the General Election we had just a few weeks ago didn't really happen, and that there are 'huge swathes' of voters dying for a proper socialist party leader to vote for. And talk of 'establishment coups'. Priceless. Can I give everybody a quick reality check. Outside London, Labour took precisely one seat from the Tories in the whole of the South of England. And that was in Hove, which is as close to a 'London' seat outside the city itself as you can get. And Labour lost zero seats to UKIP, even indirectly. If the Labour Party has any aspirations to govern again, they need to throw Corbyn under the proverbial bus. Today.