mockney piers

I think we've sussed out who new nexus is, UDT I'm not so sure. It could be good cop bad cop, but I don't think it is he, and though there's whirrs of old posters about UDT, he's not revealing his tells if that's the case. I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Scylla didn't really ask a question, more proffered a position. Whilst I appreciated a less strident and a more mature tone, it was absolutely littered with conflated concepts and misunderstandings. For instance the market for bonds* is much stronger during times of uncertainty, low growth in the west is due to a lack of confidence more than anything, growth elsewhere is very healthy and has nothing, and nothing has anything to do with running out of resources, that's something for a good half a century or more depending on the resource in question. Also debt can be managed by growth (increased tax receipts), or spending less, hence all these bloody cuts everywhere everyone is complaining about. All said, I'm not sure how anyone was meant to 'answer' it. But then this thread has seen 20 bloody pages of half baked theories and earnest rebuttals, I'm not sure another one will help anyone. *I'm not sure what a 'bond market' with some sort of anthropomorphic motives attached to it is.

"The event itself sounds perfectly ghastly" A bit harsh, it always reminds me of the fair in the first ever episode of Father Ted.

blimey, talk about silver linings. Well done chap(esse)s!

...or to paraphrase "No representation without taxation" I'm pretty sure huguenot has clicked the donate button, as have many of us. Have you?

For starters they could pay a realistic amount to fill up their gas guzzling cars, start investing their reduced tax income into better public transport infrastructure and repairing all that lovely stuff they built under the new deal that's falling apart these days. It's all a very long way away from civil wars, juntas and the utter rubbish that the OP predicted. If sensible discussion is going to be done though I say lets start a new thread and let those with a semblance of intelligence abandon this thread to the loony fringes.

"may survive as any kind of economic power. I doubt it though." 400 odd million in a country with good infrastructure, good education, massively influential culture and cutting edge technological research institutions, will probably do ok. If you mean it will lose global hegemony I'm inclined to agree. If you mean it will have suffer the social consequences of the loss of global hegemony and a global economic system biased in its favour, then I'm inclined to agree. But it ain't going anywhere fast. The world is going to have to adjust to a more equitable distribution and consumption of its resources, but that won't bring about catastrophe. All having to make do with the finite resources we have left is a much more important issue than farting on about fucking derivatives.

How does an erosion of competitive advantage in one sentence suddenly become a binary prognostication of survival in the next one? You're all bonkers frankly. End of empire isn't always catastrophic you know. Britain just got a bit of a self-image problem. God even the Western Roman empire actually suffered comapratively little and had much more in the way of continuity whilst muddling through bleeding into slow social change rather than any sort of cataclysm, though Gibson reading 'new nexus' will probably claim otherwise, and throw in something about moral decline ;)

LD, you seem obsessed about Land reform. Have you ever expanded on how you want it reformed? I get calls for it in agrarian economies dominated by massively wealthy landowners where the majority of the population are tenant farmers in theory but little more than serfs in practice. We live in a primarily service led economy with an industrial base, where most people can't even keep a spider-plant going, where farming has become quite specialised and by and large do okay (when they're not being bullied by the supermarkets). What do you think this will do for our society as a whole or are you just saying rich landowners should give you some land?

My Olympus EP-1 has aperture control and a passable DOF, it's macro mode is actually pretty good. It's an older model around ?250-300 so you may have to hunt around as the new EP-3 is over seven hundred quid!!

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20. Once you pop you can't stop, no matter if you say you'll no longer post, flounce out or even kill off your avatar.

really, it's a month away!!

73. Silence should not be taken to be tacit enjoyment. 74. Talking of which, putting words in others' mouths in the quiet room is really bad form! *harumphs*

"oooh, with language like that, the mask is slipping slightly and a familiar figure starts to take shape" my thoughts exactly!!!!

6) Crossposting is inevitable

5) Four wheels good, three wheels bad 5.5) Rule 5.5 > all the other rules

An appropriate choice of quote given how our poor old Will suffers from the slings and arrows of conspiracy theorists and revisionists him(or her, or them)self(ves). ;-)

thanks for the advice, will get him to the GP this week.

With name* etched and everything. *mock let's dad

I thought Cuba was the new Iceland, full of Italia Conti rejects. I'd much rather go down to Dorset with its wonderful bulbarrow hill.

Well that was a treat. It's like the inverse of the fortress upton park season where our home form was better than the champions arsenal, but we couldn't win away. Obviously its very early days, but if we can sort out our home form I fancy our chances (or will regret cursing us by writing that)

If I can find my travel card I'll jump on the 176 for this one. Is this a defacto east dulwich dads club meeting?

The mocklet has a pretty bad allergy to eggs, which obviously we found out the hard way (vomitting, swelling etc, 'it wasn't the eggs I gave him' said the mockerina-in-law). On holiday this week he got quite a disturbing rash that looked almost like scalding blisters. An anti histamine got rid of it, but we're not sure what caused it, we think probably prawns. Does anyone know how we go about finding out? Can we do this on the NHS or do we have to go to some sort of specialist, I really have no clue.

"Sorry wrong again, Earth has elliptical orbit" And NN neatly encapsulated himself with an a piece of irrelevance exposing his complete lack of understanding. Can we stop indulging him now please, he cannot be persuaded as he is evangelically trying to open OUR eyes. *chortles*