mockney piers

Go to settings page on your phone in iTunes and check the 'i want to manage my own music' box and bob will surely be related to you in some way.

The smallest differences lead to the biggest strife. A wise man that Swift ;-)

there is nothing to hide. Only the admin uses the admin account. The chair is passed on occasionally, thus far four holders, myself the first and briefest of the four. There is a family room moderator, it is one person, it is not the admin. There are moderators and they cajole politely behind the scenes using their own names. Or so I'm told ... Unless that's what they want you to think.

I see no issue. By that measur. We should feel sorry for the abnormal children in my friend's school (he's headmaster) in Billericay whose parents are still together.

Quite. Can you link to that post please Kel?

Admin is admin. 'Tis His place. The team are but loyal minkies. They aid with the smooth running but it isn't their show. Admin is not legion... ;-)

In my vast experience of parenting it seems to involve working out which one of the twomsnatches some sleep. Then, if they follow the patented Forum-Method it will at some point involve deciding just the right levels of physical abuse to make their child ambitious and successful. I see no reason why they should be perculiarly different.

Bottom line, of you don't like it then, frankly, fuck off and start your own forum with your own rules. Plenty of things I'd do differently if I ruled the roost. For a start I'd ban all signatures as they're ugly and they clutter the place. I've always said the EDF's strength is its simplicity. No avatars, no thumbs up or down of comments, no poster ratings etc. Sigs add clutter and PR was the worst offender, somehow its very worthiness made it even worse as you had to hate yourself for being uncivic minded everytime you had to wade past its elephantine awfulness on-every-bloody-comment. But then I don't go to the enourmous investment of time, effort and expense to provide the largest possible number of people with a satisfactory, quality, free and effective service do I, as I'm far too lazy and happy for someone else to do the work, so I'll thank admin for all his effort rather than project my own inadequacies on to him.

Sorry I missed it. Tried to leave for a latish drink but the mocklett got all jealous. Just putting it to bed now; fingers crossed the calm continues. Hope everyone else had a good night; G&T another time quidsy.

T'would be nice to doff cap rightly and royally ladymuck. And quids, consider it a date ... Hopefully.

Ladymuck, consider my cap doffed in your general direction.

Well I've given the new Midlake album a couple of listens. Theyve definitely gone further down the path of psych-folk or whatever. I know they're foreign like, so maybe English music has not been heard down their neck of the woods, bit I can spot a rehash of Espers II remixed by Wishbone Ash a mile off!!! Still good mind!!

"Now if only the darn thing would send texts it would be perfect" there might be an app for that. iPhone and blackberry both have whatsApp which is a cross platform IM/SMSy messaging app but the messages are free. Don't know if it's out for HD2 though.

I suspect Rory may make his firstpub trip to Hoopers this weekend. Gosh how exciting, love the ole six nations.

Oooh matron etc. Whatever works basically.

Good question SP. Mines robust but a but heavy and hogly as hail!! Need to replace it (though judging by the chipped corners and hefty cracks, it has served its purpose well!!) I reckon the light leather one should stop stuff breaking and screens cracking and keep the weight down.

This should be irrelevant. Get a cover for it, or like mac gabahaban you'll discover too late that they are both slippery and fragile!!

I think the key word is encourage David. A healthy liberal country should entice and seduce, not legislate and enforce. Thems the tactics of a people lacking in self confidence and identity, recoursing to fear. If British is a strong identity then this shouldn be the case. Ironically I'm beginning to think calls for following France actually stem from insecurity. Mind you I'm an immigrant and my wife thinks I'm the most English person she's ever met and I love the place, so clearly this country's ability to seduce and entice is stronger than you may think.

Exactly. It's to do with social inequality, this anger can be preyed upon to foster extremism. It's still a tiny problem in he uk and I really font think it's from a failure to enforce cultural homogeneity on imigrants. In fact far more relevant is our foreign policy perceived as being anti Islamic. It's not, it's merely murderously and repaciously neo-colonial. But try splittin hairs with someone who's country had been invaded or whose family are being bombed by their government at our government's behest. What then we need to do is engage in open dialogue, but here again labour score own goals by banning parties and effectively persecute the Muslim community. Even if they are not persecuting it was labour who always said 'it's not about doing it's about being see to do' (I paraphrase). They never learnt their own lesson.

Exactly. And I'm much happier with the latter because subsequent generations do tend to become much more like their peers at school. Societies have a way of normalising over time. It's when you target legislation at them in order to enforce behaviour that they are more likely to feel alienated and adopt stricter interpretations/dress/politico-religious views than their parents in order to be different, to say 'fuck you' to the authorities and we are seeing more of this happening in this country and I can't say as I blame them, Islam is the new communism; the bogey man, the other. Legislating behaviour in this fashion actually will have the opposite effect, and thu s it will be in France, traditional Muslims are not going to feel more French as a result. If the real intention is that any behaviour other than an ill defined and perceived nationalist norm is unwelcome then surely just go down an enforced repatriation route for anyone who wants to continue with foreign traditions, garb, behaviour. Plus I REALLY don't buy the security line. If any sort of face covering is bad then at least we're all beginning to sing from the same hymn sheet regards clowns!! I really don't read the guardian, I just don't think the bogeyman lies under every veil. Live and let live makes for a better country if you ask me.

iYoung???? is even more scarily long haired. Talk about casual!!!!!

It's nothing to do with seperation of church and state, it's simply legislating for behaviour. If people are happy to ban union flags from any bar or cafe in Spain and legislate that all retirees or holidaymakers must learn Spanish before being granted residency then i guess at least there's consistency.

So basically you want them banned because you find them offensive regardless of how anyone else may feel about it. HAL is spot on, it's about perspective. You want people to behave according to narrow feelings (can't call them definitions as have yet to have britishness defined other than the behaviour sean points to) of yours, without even the first hint of empathy towards other human beings. Something about other people's shoes springs to mind All this projected as establishment self hatred or imposed guardianista thinking. Well I'm detecting a desire for imposition and if not hatred then antipathy emenating from someone, but establishment it ain't. First they came for the burqah clad roving mugging gangs...

I'll try and pop down for two as it's been a long time since I made one (apart from the under attended Hoopers one, shame in you lazy lot!!!!! ;) ) might encourage a shift attendance from missus mockers too.

The search defaults to 'last 30 days'. Make sure you do 'all time', or whatever it says, on the drop down in the search page. Or you an search for your own messages instead of key words. It'll be there somewhere. You could even try on google as most of our content is cached on there too.