Why've you always got to be so negative matthew? I thought Stoke deserved, even if outplayed for large parts they were always in the game and had some nifty runs and good football in there, with acres of space on many am occassion down the left. Wow, as I wrote that peter Reid (not unbiased) just suggested Etheringtom for England (laughable maybe but a kernel of reason in there). As for the suggestion re the quality of the suuport, the camera was unfair, it was fairly well attended in a town a report today described as having been among the hardest hit by the recession in Britain!!