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Oh well, ok, I watched Elf and hated myself for enjoying it quite alot. Mind you I do have a thing for Zooey Descahnel.

He's just wondering why you picked this particular website. I have to say I tried to welcome you as I don't like seeing new posters attacked, but you have a very curious manner of debate. You've dismissed masses of scientific research with a logical fallacy based upon your simplistic conclusion that boils down to A is difficult so C must be difficult and therefore both are wrong. Even though having hotter drier summers, wetter autumns and colder wetter (or snowier) winters in britain has long been touted as a possible consequence of climate change due to global warming. You retaliate by undermining posters, something you complained about in your own thread even though most were asking perfectly legitimate questions, if occassionally a bit aggressively; I may avoid the lecture now ;) btw 'huguenot' and '????' are legitimate posters, locals and have no connection to big pharma orthe health industry in general. Anyway, back to sensible debate.

The roads are wel. Gritted, buses working fine, my 185 going well. There is a reduced service to Victoria from Denmark hill though.

Noooo he's my neighbour now, and have met said dog all about town. Lovely (s)he is too!!

AMD will be fine. I had one in my last Alienware gaming PC so they are really good, though Intel have caught up again in the gaming stakes. Just get something half decent with a dual core and you'll be fine.

In a honda accord? Thanks peopleys. I'm a very safe driver though, don't you worry!! ;-P

Anyway, talking of YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. Passed driving test!!!!

Damn, just shot a fleeing civilian in the back, blood and cookwank splashed all over northcross road. Only 3 more allowed!! Ooh, and I reckon you could probably take someone out in Hornimann gardens from there with an Intervention Ed Keef...noo, i told you you could have my copy!!

Do you actually believe these things vince, I mean really? Fr be it from me to call you a tedious troll, I'm just wondering if you think that's what would have happened other than the far more likely scenario of kk being thanked half-heartedly with a roll of the eyes that hinted how much paperwork would be involved to actually do anything and the chap I question being told to calm down and behave himself and that would have been the end if it.

Hang them? Only four broke the law, many have had to pay money back, some have lost their jobs others have had demotions and the gravy train has been stopped. I understand anger, I was pretty angry myself on reading all the revelatins but not sure what else should be done, remember, on the whole, rules weren't actually broken as unbelievable as it may seem.

I'm with quids, I actually quite like David tennants doctor but not the whole new shebang. All a bit too nudge nudge wink wink self referncy clever for me. Not bad but not great, not unlike this triffids remake. The seventies triffids was better but hardly need be the final word. Now Hitch hikers guide is another matter entirely, couldn't get with the film, the BBC series is burned into my brain. I saw the remake of miracle on 34th street the other day and spent most of the film wondering why Arthur Dent was putting on that ridiculous American accent and how on earth (which one I'm not sure) he got there.

Indeed, I'd go further. Many successful people talk of having childhoods where they were neglected, unloved and even abused. Ambition can be driven from deep seated needs to please, be loved, validated even just plain bloody noticed. It's no coincidence that they are often workaholics and feel unfulfilled by their successes. So I'm with taper, keep this about morality. Damaging people may e a recipe for a narrow definition of success but hardly seems conducive to a healthy society. If empires are your thing then children being seen and not heard and packed off to boarding schools full of disciplinarians certainly worked wonders, but let's face it, all that opium addiction, mothers ruin, repressed sexuality and terrible food has taken us the best part of a century to recover from (made for some great literature too mind).

Ah, enough said then ;-) Huguent, you had me on 'peer reviews journals' ;)

I'd avoid mentioning your book though, the chair may frown if you do.

I'm not necessarily suspicious of you justin, I sought only to help defuse the thread from becoming argumentative and allow people to address the points. I thought huguenot could come in a little less full on, but thought that it might help to explain to you why people might be suspicious. I wasn't intending to subvert debate towards any particular topic and lord knows I'd happily avoid ever discussing ms mckeith again. On a minor aside before i pop off, and while I understand you wanting the intentions of thread adhered to and respected, house rules do say that the lounge is pretty much anything goes and debate is often irrevernt and prone to offtopication. If you want to start a debate about the science of cholestorol free of that sort of thing then the drawing room has stricter rules and guidelines about how debates are adhered to.

I must say that I've been Reading for years that not everyone is convinced by the simplistic correlations between cholesterol and ill health. The Japanese and southern French have very healthy hearts despite diets with high levels of cholesterol. I agree with PR that it's about sensible eating, which to answer your question at a very lay but common sense level is all things in moderation (ok not rat poison). However targetting the high cholesterol items in out diet in this country seems to be an eminently sensible thing to do as we eat far too much processed food, fast food, pizzas and burgers dripping in fat, and nowhere near enough fresh or steamed veg, White fish, oily fish etc etc. Likewise salt, too much in our diet for sure but we'd die without any. Huguenot* is being a tad unfair, especially as a new scientist subscriber he will have read the same articles questioning this orthodoxy as I. But we do get some strange folk on here advertising their services of strange ideas and practices, and starting off with 'here's my book' will understandably get people wondering what motives are (and tbh selling more books still seems like the most likely candidate for startig this thread however noble your intentions regarding the subject matter). *his referneces to climate hange denial and gillian mckeith are about bad science, I guess a cursory look at your site he felt you may be pushing it. In fairness connections to metabolic typing do also ring alarm bells.

Took my 9 months preggers wife and her arsenal cousin there last night for his birthday. Good game, Tom loved the stadium and he was impressed the view (upper tier west stand, yes that's the west stand not the Dr Martens stand, we'd never go in for all that tawdry sponsorship nonsense). Behrami and kovac ran the show for an hour but were clearly exhausted and arsenal took advantage of the acres of space that opened up in midfield. It looked to me like arsenal played to their game plan and hats off tothem it was a good victory. Our bare bones squad didn't take all their earlier chances. It could have been 3-0 at half time with more experienced strikers on, but we didn't and it wasn't it. Still, quality FA Cup fare.

Luckily for this country Steve, you don't have a say. In fact very few of those MPs broke rules outright, it was mostly that those rules were designed specifically to be abused to a certain extent as a way around awarding politically unpopular wage rises. It just a culture of greed Started stretchig them to politically unacceptable levels. Four MPs have broke the law and are being charged and may well go to prison, I too hope so.

Likewise kid (though I was 5). It does bring up those perennial questions, what is british. I always thought it was a conceptual thing, an idea. Like Rome. People stil spoke of Rome and Roman long after Rome itself had become nothing more than a small provincial capital and the seats of power had moved Byzantium and Milan. Wasn't British a blanket idea that all it's subjects were encouraged to feel, whether you were Edmund Hilary (brton conquers everest) or a sepoy fighting for the king in the world wars. I wasn't aware there was some sort of exclusivity based on race or background, indeed the fact that the powerful and wealthy were encouraged tonsend their children to be educated in schools here and/or send them to Sandhurst shows that the inclusivity was encouraged and one of the reasons for the empire's success. Contrast that with the Spanish empire that had very specific rules fir racial exclusivity and look how much weaker it was in the long run. If you mean English then there's a while new set of conundrums. How far back to you draw lines to allow someone to be English. Anyone who was born here, or must there be a racial profiling? If I find I'm the direct descendent if a Roamn Nubia stationed here does that exclude me even though my family have been here a thousand years longer than a Viking blonde living in York? Do you have to prove that you are 100% of native post ice age stock (and I challenge anyone outside of the far west of Ireland to even have the tiniest chance of doing that)? Or does it Mean sounding the part, looking the part? I feel british and could easily pass for it but I'm proud of my Spanish heritage. Being of Scottish, SpanIsh, German, English, welsh (all via the west indies) and god knows what else am I simply excluded from having any nationality like a mongrel banned from crufts of do we admit were all abut of a m?lange. I'm of the opinion that nationalism is on it's way out in this shrunken world. It's a pretty recent concept anyway and though it has helped forge modernisation, I think for the most part it's been more trouble than it's worth and has certainlybeen at the heart of millions of deaths overthe last three hundred years or so. Good riddance I say.

Blimey that's a very advanced kindergarten!! In my experience arguments there involve potato prints and poopoo. I would agree that given the scale of the issues, climate change is an inherently political problem. I would say that politics isn't deliberately abusing climate change in order to further an agenda (though occasionally this may happen, or just as likely a solution and a poliocal approach may coincide). I would say tha politicians struggle to make the more stnadard political/economic goals such as industry protection, jb creation and growth, with the needs of adjustment, and sometimes misrepresent climate chage in order to make them meet. The third runway for starters would spring to mind.

You can call me what you like Steve, no skin off my nose, I simply refer people back to your words "Where does this guy get off insisting he is British? He was born in Pakistan has a Pakistani name and looks like a Pakistani.............." People can make up their own minds about you I know I have.

"EDF's passim, surely?" very true eye, of course!! ;)

And the bipolar (pun intended) mud slinging continues ad nauseum. I think what most on here want is a bit of perspective and rationality when discussing these matters. Bandying about names happens, but does noone any good. However when someone frames their point of debate by straw-manning any possible rebuttal with the use of either 'daily mail readers' or 'bleeding heart liberals' that just drags it down to its basest level. Bottom line, a man got caught smggling and the nation has applied its maximum penalty. It took them 30 minutes to come to this conclusion in the trial despite the man being doolally (his appealwas so rambling and deluded it caused the whole court to laugh out loud) and from everything I've read, duped by unscrupulous operators who no doubt continue to smuggle drugs in via naive/desperate and/or impressionable mules. Death sentence not much of a deterrent for the real perpetrators was it. For those taking some sort of satisfaction or delight maybe you'd like to read this and think for one moment with a bit of empathy about this man, his family and all those who live in countries less free and liberal (synonyms dont you know) than ours. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/shackles-convulsions-and-sheer-terror-life-on-death-row-in-china-1851448.html Oh and while I'm at it "Where does this guy get off insisting he is British?" Where do I get off suggesting the same then Steve? I'm a first generation immigrant born in a hot swarthy country, I guess I should just bin my British passport then huh if that's the welcome I'm given; at least I know where I stand now!!!

Gaaah, wasn't going to sucked into this trolling nonsense. Phooooey.

Yeah, you go there Vince. Before those bloody liberals stuck their bleeding heart oar in we could be proud of the way we received a quarter of our government's revenue from selling opium to the chinese, and when their government tried to stop us doing so because of the desperate misery widespread addiction caused to their society we went to war with them and made damn well sure we could carry on selling it there. Those awful liberals were apparently a bit upset when they heard of this, bloody PC. I imagine many chinese reacted with equal sympathy when they heard of General Gordon's fate in Khartoum, but I doubt many denigrated the liberals' record on this matter. The irony of this all does make me laugh. BTW we're not slipping down the world order, we slipped down it ages ago, we're just taking ages coming to terms with where we are in the world order. A small country with little manufacturing capacity thinking we're we're top dog. We want to be a consumer society with our cheap goods and energy available to all, and have sacrificed our inefficient (read relatively expensive labour) industry to this chimera. You complain about us taking one from the bankers, but that's all we have left, and that's not the politicians fault, that's our fault, we have noone else to blame. It sure as hell ain't the bleeding hearts' fault who simply say respect for your fellow man is a good thing. As far as not kicking terrorists out, the whole world has been complaining about Britain being a refuge for the worlds' terrorist organisations for the best part of fifty years, and we made a cynical unspoken deal that they could all hang about London as long as they never committed any atrocities in British territory. There was an awful lot of schadenfreude emanating from an awful lot of foreign offices around the world when 7/7 happened; some might even say it was comeuppance. The country only appears to be going to the dogs to delusional twonks who still think this country is something it hasn't been since it was a rapacious empire. Personally I think it's a great country to live in, as long as we make sure those thugs on the street belonging to the impotent police stop killing people going to work or walking their dogs.