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After discovering that online gaming is full of American little shits who call everything gay I have dispensed with headset for non spec op/co op type gaming, though nothing wrong with winding people up in my book :) I do do search and destroy and yes horribly tense. Also enjoy hardcore more than normal, you pretty much have to dispense with the heartbeat sensor as everyone is ninja though, silencer is simply a must though. Favoured levels, high rise, wasteland, terminal and Karachi (or is it invasion) good days and bad days on rundown, scrapyard and favela sub base and derail. Terrible days on underpass, rust and quarry (unless you camp like an arse, plus grenade launcher is amust for that level

I didn't call any names. Simply posted a picture of a troll. The inference is entirely your problem if that's what you think I was doing.

Actually the inference was his, the implication is undoubtedly yours. Imagine a world without trolls.

There are other FPSs? Left for dead if he's going to onlining. Fallout 3 if he likes RPG elements more. Orange box? There are a host Of solid but u remarkable shooters I guess. Fear springs to mind.

Are we still 7-1 to go down? May have to lay a pony on that. Hmm that just sounds wrong.

Just read fractionater's document. Wow, simply wow. Agree with sean that it really has become like talking to 9/11 truthers. The only thing it didn't mention was the black un helicopters though it came close once or twice. "lying even to children". Its comic genius is so good I'll forgive it the bad grammar.

Loving the analogy Huguenot, man has become the proverbial bitter late middle aged man sucking on a cigarette, wheezing "what do doctors know? If it was up to doctors we wouldn't have any fun"

Quite simply the best news story ever http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6825449/Taekwondo-monkeys-attack-trainer.html

Mw2 isnt po faced it's fun wih even more capitals than thereare letters!! Yeah ok shoot lots of people. I'm just saying there must be something I can do so I do that more often than people do it to me. Although did get a 20/6 k/d spread last night. Nothing quite like a harrier strike!!!! But still on .85 k/d ratio. Right favoured setup: Scar H : silencer, grenade launcher or maybe holographic sight or maybe heartbeat sensor, depends on level flash bangs Semtex cold blooded or stopping power bling though scavenger is better on a level where I do well as I hate dying because you've got no bullets left and are reduced to flash bangs and knifing commando A 12 shotgun thingy red dot sight silencer

And thus your modern warfare journey begins. Remember always love the bling!!! I know their are a couple of MW2ers around. Any favoured setups/tactics/techniques?

They've cottoned on to us spotifiers here at work and shut us down. Bah humbug. Can't tell it if it's on spotify but Half Man Half Biscuit's It's Cliched to be Cynical at Christmas is a classy parody of the classic Christmas hit, and weirdly joyous for them too.

Silverfox, I don't think your flat earth analogy holds water. Flat earth was an orthodoxy imposed on people from the point of view of faith. It was science that undermined that. Indeed eratosthenes had made a pretty good crack at the circumference of the earth a good seventeen centuries before Columbus. It was the study of ancient thought and science that undermined catholic orthodoxy in many areas, theological, philosophical and scientific, including the one mentioned. Climate change is not faith based, it is based in solid science. Most of the arguments against are based from economic, political even sociological, but the science remains solid. As I've said untold times now, there are debates still raging on individual and wider points, but no climate scientists debate that there is a man made effect going on irrespective of the usual global and regional fluctuations. I think the biggest damage done is by the press because by their very nature they want big dramatic stories that sell papers and they're not scientists. It's the same reason noone has a clue as to whether tea will kill you stone dead or make you live an extra hundred years. See Ben Goldacres columns passim for the effect this has had on the medical scientists and times it by a hundred. So to quite an extent I don't blame people for just carrying on drinking tea, and frankly boiling their full kettles to do so.

Regards 'saving the planet' there's always time for this gem from the mash. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/i'll-be-just-fine,-says-planet-20080306774/

aagh, are you leaving the fold? are you going all PS3 on us?!?!?!?!?

In all fairness the next ice age is coming

I love the wail the daily mail *spits* take some sort of personal affront at stories like this. And who on earth mentioned rehabilitation, though doubtless years of expensive physio/speech therapy to ensue for one. My bottom line is burglar got commeuppance. He didn't get justice (except insofar as the other guy has been put away. Your vigilante also got his just desserts. Though difficult to know how I'd react* my first concern would be for my family not taking a bat to someone. His actions, however you view them were premeditated and against the law. Seems to me a case of law done good all round under difficult circumstances frankly. For the record I have awoken to balaclavaed robber in my flat in the middle of the night though whether armed or not he didn't threaten me. The first thing i did was call the police.

And again, this government is addicted to spin. Because of this we have men on omnibus' being stupid. And yes even the environmentalist scream "Well ALL DIEE!!!!", but it doesn't help. If its one thing we need honesty and openness about it's this.

"It's worth adding that anyone who says deciding exactly what should be done is easy is as guilty of spinning as anyone else." i applaud your post above Dave, I would take issue with that one sentence. You may describe something that is patronising, haughty, maybe misguided or just plain insightful or useful or not useful, or it may quite simply be an opinion but ain't necessarily spin. Spin is lying to dupe your target audience into thinking what you want them to think pure and simple. It is usually a misdirection or dissemminstion, it may not be a black lie but it is never and can never be, by definition, the truth.

I agree that politicisation of the issues has utterly confused and subverted the debate. Unfortunately experience tells us that people won't do anything without being pushed, and for that we will need international agreements, regulation and carrots and stick taxation. It worked for the ozone but that was a much much smaller challenge. Not to get all political again but by undermining our trust in politicians new labour have undermined our trust in everything they say and do. I've just had people on my office telling me climate change was made up by Gordon brown to vet mote tax money out of us. Lunacy, it was Tony Blair's idea!!!!!!

Very well put Casper.

Quite DaveR. Indont think the burglars will get much sympathy from anyone, but it's one thing to be threatening and another to do harm. As it goes they scared the bejeezus out of a family but ended up with brain damage. That's a life sentence to the other guy's 30 months. An old patient of my mums was a chap who burgled a jewellers. The store owner shot him in the head with a shotgun causing brain damage with particular issues with his speech (hence seeing my mum). The store owner was held as a hero in the letters pave of the local press, but in the end (once chap came out of coma) it turned out they knew each other, it was an insurance job and store owner had felt that killin the paid for burglar was the only way of ensuring he wasn't found out. Down he went for many years. Now I'm not saying this is the case, but we really dont know what went on. And it reall was a life sentence for the chap who certainly had 'hangings too good for him' said about him. I don't recall the subsequent derails ever hitting the press, it was only because he was a patient tha we got to find it all out.

The law is pretty clear on this. He broke he law by taking into his own hands. For the level of violence shown I think he got off pretty lightly and I'm sure his being a law abiding family man was taken into account. He'll be out by next march.

Research grants, reputations, our gratitude, ego. Plenty of theories out there form the AIDS deniers camp especially. All somewhat less convincing than an oil company's vested interests I must say. I have research scientist friends and believe you me they don't do it for the money. They do it because they believe in the cause of science, they really do. One friend works in plant genetics (yep Frankenstein food). He could earn three or four times as much and have better equipment working for monsanto, bit amazingly he wants his reseach to be as free from commercial pressures as is possible. That's not to say he doesn't have to justify what he does, but at least his work is open to peer review and external examination deniers, lobbyists and plain old fashioned sceptics have no such srupulous examination of their activites. If one persnickety undermines what thy have to say then just keep repeating the message in as many places as possible, if you can get a sympathetic journo or politician all the better. And the damage is being done, those believing in AGW are being rolled back. There is of course the other factor in this of climate change ennui. The timescale are so long, the changes you have to make to your life seemingly infinetessimally small whilst the challenge seemingly so vast that people stop caring. I do wonder why deniers bother. Why not just carry on putting small children on the fire and living your life guilt free, nobody else seems to care much. Who are you trying to convince? Methinks she doth protest too much etc.

I'm with you on the cheap theatrics. I'm also with you that the climate cause has had damage done by poor journalism and untold damage by the email scandal. The thing is though both give deniers huge amounts of ammunition, neither actually undermine the science which has become pretty overwhelming in the evidence such that there are no reputable sceptics left among the scientific debate as to whether our climate change is man made, only on the degrees, timelines and predictons, though obviously there is still much debate on many of the nitty gritty issues. The actual distractions and dissimulations however are at the very core of the deniers' tactics, not those of the scientific community.

It wasn't a mad aside it was a fully researched and published piece. Huge swathes were left untouched for over a century. Many dead in a community could mean the complete Displacement and dissappearamce of a community and indeed thousands upon thousands of hamlets dissappeared off the map formever and yes huge swathes of farmland became woodland again. It really isn't crazy science, this much i was aware of long before climate change was brought into it having read first And second hand accounts of English soldiery marauding through France during history studies. I honestly don't think it's an enourmous sgrectch or dodgy science though it's certainly speculative. But they were suggesting that it was the seismic nature of this change that went on to have a long term effect (if 400 odd years is long) even if population and agricultural activity enjoyed a heathy recovery in the short to medium term. What I do love about deniers is saying something like 'how do you account for this warming' and have any refutation of it as 'what do scientists know'. Err, who exactly was counting tree rings in and positing the theory in the first place you loons?