expat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > so in the recent by-election the lib-dem went from > coming seond by just over 100 votes to coming > second by over 4000 votes. Some victory Who said the word 'victory'? Oh, that'd be just 'expat' then... The point is that many were predicting that the Lib Dems were finished - thus the name of this thread. Some even said there was a chance they'd lose their deposit in the recent by-election. In truth, they not only held their vote share, but raised it ever so slightly. Lots of talk about Tory tactical voting but, in reality, I doubt that was a whole lot. So no victory, but since by-elections are generally not good for parties in government, it's not bad news. Not bad news at all.