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TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Scotlands travellers have a long and very diverse > history. And unfortunately suffer the same > prejudices. I used to live in a tenement in Dundee, and every year a group of "tinks" as they were locally known used to come to a patch of waste ground nearby. To the best of my recollection they neither caused any trouble nor left any litter. But still people used to talk about them in derogatory terms. It's sad that so many people seem to want to live in a world where everybody else is just like themselves.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yawn! There it is again! Grow up. Please.

Sardine soup

Easy to cook poppadums in a microwave, Fox. Get some from Khans and keep them for future similar emergencies :)

Odd that nobody has yet mentioned the thread linked to below. Ah. Could it be that it doesn't conveniently fit their prejudices, as presumably Travellers aren't involved? http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1623662,page=1 I haven't seen anybody condemning all the residents of East Dulwich on the grounds that a few of them leave a load of rubbish which is an eyesore and which others have to clear up.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a tired recipe now this programme. Overstayed > it's welcome by several years. I agree. They've made some minor changes over the years but not enough to keep it fresh. And this year's participants are even more awful than usual. I expect I'll still watch it though ....

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > numbers Wrote: > > > think I @#$%& up the parallel parking as well. > > Ah sure that would have been expected, you being a > woman and all. They must take that into > account........ > > *runs for cover* Parallel parking wasn't part of the test when I took it, back in the dark ages. Just three point turns and reversing round a corner (I think .....)

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- And for every Sue there are dozens of > respondents who have real life experience of our > travelling chums and the misery, cost and filth > they leave in their wake. Doesn't stop the Sues of > this world buying their copies of the Guardian, > mind you, but their contribution soon tails off > under the overwhelming weight of actual evidence. OK. First off, I don't buy the Guardian. Second, please post on here "the overwhelming weight of actual evidence". I'm not holding my breath.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > A number of people are very welcoming - and that's > great. > Some people are very wary. > > It's funny the former have all gone quiet now that > that the fears have been realised. Speaking solely for myself, I have"gone all quiet" because I have had a very busy day and checking the East Dulwich Forum has not been part of it.

It is not good, obviously. But just because one group of travellers has left a load of rubbish does not mean that all travellers are the same. It is lumping everybody together which is wrong, not criticising the behaviour of one relatively small group of people.

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its the thieving messy 99% that give the 1% a bad > name. And it's nasty prejudiced posters like you who give this forum a bad name. ETA: There is lots of mess and litter left after music festivals, for example, by many people who are not from the travelling community. But you don't rush to condemn them, on here, do you? They don't conveniently fit your prejudices, do they?

It is not just Lordship Lane. I was taken by ambulance to A&E after falling literally flat on my face after tripping on an uneven paving stone in Bellenden Road last December. A passer by told me she had broken her arm on the same spot. It seems there is a general issue with the upkeep of pavements in Southwark, and probably London in general.

First post? Why would dog owners or walkers need to be aware?

P.O.U.S.theWonderCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I suspect the people who are "pro-traveller" don't > like the idea of an entire class/group of people > being tarred with the same brush. Kinda like > saying all South Londoners are bigoted > curtain-twitchers. Yes.

LadyNorwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lots of toads in my garden, they make me heave > (frogs too) - however.... > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/05/toads-n > early-endangered-after-suffering-massive-decline-i > n-30-ye/ I'll gladly give them a home in my garden, Lady Norwood! I love having frogs there!

Their carrot cake is pretty good too.

adonirum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have any of the posters on this thread ever > engaged with the traveller community, either > personally or professionally? I have a friend who is an Irish traveller. He is very bitter about the way in which his community has been treated, and also about how its members are often portrayed. Of course some travellers are thieves. So are some members of most other groups. They just commit different kinds of theft, like fraud and false accounting.

The OP says "apparently this isn't uncommon". The people who you are indirectly accusing have only just arrived in the area. Edited to correct my misremembering the quote.

chrisbeach Wrote: -------------------------------------------- > > Here's the thread so you can all judge for > yourselves > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/ILoveSE4/permalink > /1409473272416153/ I have looked. I've judged for myself. I find your views quite vile.

redjam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > peckham_ryu Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > An uncharitable and prejudiced cynic would > wonder > > if our temporary neighbours at the Dulwich > > Hospital site happen to be storing any > scaffolding > > materials there at the moment. > > > > ( **reaches for tin hat** ) > > Wow. I think the most depressing thing about this > post is not the unsupported accusation, based on > nothing more than petty prejudice, it's the > weaselly way in which it's written in the third > person, like saying something mean and then > running away. 'An uncharitable and prejudiced > cynic...' That'll be you then, peckham_ryu? > > Muffins78, I hope you get your scaffolding back. Agree with all that. A nasty post based on no evidence whatsoever.

Just stop right there :))

I was joking :))

I'm finding it enthralling :)

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fair enough point, I do feel sorry for travellers > too, though. So do I. Their traditional way of life has been completely wrecked by fairly recent laws. If there was not so much prejudice against them, there would have been an outcry.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: - > > If it doesn't benefit them to steal it, then it > would reduce the thefts The trouble is, there's no way of knowing before they steal it whether or not they can use it .... So unless everybody locked their phone to be unusable to a thief, they will just go on taking the chance, I guess .... ETA: Oh, and years ago, when I was younger and fitter, I did a self-defence course. I tried out what I'd been taught on my then partner. He had me overpowered in about a zillionth of a second :(