To be honest SF and as a gay person myself I find your reasoning a bit offensive. What possible threat can any gay person have to the church apart from stirring the rampant homophobia of some of it's members. There are gay christians as well, who have as much right to be represented and served by the church they follow as anyone else. The church should be dragged kicking and screaming out of it's backward attitude. Are you really arguing that prejudice should continue because some members of the church (and it may be most for all I know) think it's ok? Mind you, looking at the furore over female priests in some quarters shows just how backward most of it is. What part of you thinks that serves society well? Are you aware that suicide rates amongst gay people are almost twice the average? Have you never stopped to think that institutional prejudice contributes to that? And you should have a look at the origin of 'marriage'. If you did you will see it had little to do with any church and everything to do with 'ownership' of property, inculding the wife. As has been pointed out above, the proposed legislation will not force churches to marry gay couples anyway. Good posts btw H.