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Sorry, still don't understand what all this stuff re lynching is about. Who are these proposed lynchees, or is this covered by the Official Secrets Act or Data Protection Act?

I'm afraid I'm none the wiser. Dunwich is in East Anglia (or East Angular as Jade Goody would have it), while the last time that I looked East Dulwich was in South London.

Perhaps someone could explain to me what all this talk of lynching and the like is all about. BTW there is a rumour that the Council want to sell Dulwich Library to M&S for a Simply Food store.

Larkin wasn't working class. He was solidly middle class - his dad was Borough Treasurer of Coventry City Council, albeit a Fascist supporting one. And biographies of P Larkin since his death have shown P Larkin in a less than PC light. Like father, like son.

Cassius Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I have always been impressed with the fact that the Mexican with the sombrero gracing the front of the restaurant is so far from the stereotype of Mexicans with which we are so familiar.

Agree with citizen ED. It's striking how often some posters on this MB seem to turn discussions into class issues, whether we're talking about Caffee Nero, rude people on trains, the persian cats of ED, or wha'ever.

If someobody regularly gets on a train swearing and shouting at anyone who gets in their way, they are a fair subject for criticism, whether they are chavs, Hooray Henrys, yummy mummies, or wha'ever. For what it's worth, some of the rudest people that I have encountered on public transport are those whom I would categorise as soi-disant 'born to rule'. On the other hand, a number of v. rude people have come from a social category that is not so elevated (iron.) Rudeness is rudeness, whoever the person is.

Personally I don't feel that there is a need for another betting shop. However, in order to dispel any suggestion that I am thoroughly bourgeois, arguably there are too many restaurants and yummy mummy shops for the 4 by 4 brigade as well. This is why I have already suggested a new type of unit for the area - a brothel. This would be class-neutral since there would be 'escorts' in all price groups. And to avoid accusations of sex and sexual orientation bias, there would 'escorts' from both, if not all, sexes.

Why is this issue turned into a middle-class versus working class one? Shades of Student Union 1972 but surely a bit dated now, since we're all consumers of one kind or another, and not divided by wearers of bowler hats and cloth caps.

Considering the amount of money in the area, perhaps a high class brothel in LL or thereabouts would be a good business proposition.

EDmummy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am disgusted that this site will be turned into > yet another betting shop - anyone see William Hill > over flowing? The council would not change the > status of the site for a restaurant (Mr Carluccio > I need you!)but is quite happy for yet another > bookie to open up. Agreed. May we please have Carluccios pdq!

We could do with an M&S Simply Food, which would be much better than, say, Iceland. Cheners is a good complementary bookshop to Village Books. Ageing hippy place as opposed to one for yummy mummies.

Are you sure that this wasn't the Worm of Ambridge, much foretold by Joe Grundy, who terrorised that Midlands village this summer and who may have subsequently migrated south-east ? What, are you really telling me that Ambridge doesn't exist?

My mother had a friend who had married into the Cockshutt family. Amazingly the first name of one of the friend's brothers-in-law was Dick.

Talking of solicitors, there's a firm in Nottingham called Rupert Bear & Co. And the senior partner of a London firm is called Ashley Badcock; you can just imagine a Julian Clary joke about him.

SMBS is certainly not anonymous, if the queues at the weekend there are anything to go by. My wife recently spent about 30 minutes in the queue there and I wondered what had happened to her.

Actually Cheners is a very good bookshop, especially for ageing hippies. They have now started to take decimal currency rather than lsd (the currency rather than the drug). However, the phone number in their sign dates from the 01 period and hasn't changed in the 20 years we have been in the area.

Perhaps someone could shed some light on the possible proposed Victoria Line extension through ED. It's something that I remember hearing some time ago, that's all.

As I understand it, the extension of the Victoria Line from Brixton to Croydon would have gone through East Dulwich. If this had come to fruition, the regeneration of ED would have happened considerably earlier. My comment was therefore very much on topic.

Frisco, you have a real knack for being gratuitously insulting. I personally do not prefer to resort to a 'Glasgow kiss' and you are being extremely disingenuous in saying that I did when I suggested no such thing. I prefer to debate points logically and agree to differ with those who disagree with me instead of resorting to the language of the playground that I left more years ago than I would care to remember. Back to the topic, was it not suggested, at the time that the Victoria Line was extended to Brixton, that it might be further extended to East Croydon?

Very interesting map. It also shows the abandoned Northern Line extensions from Mill Hill East to Edgware, from Edgware to Bushey Heath, from Finsbury Park to Highgate and from Highgate to Ally Pally. The yummy mummies of Muswell Hill would love to have been on the Underground, as would their ED counterparts.

It's interesting that on the internet some people seem to feel that it's OK to describe people as 'anal' and 'nerdish', whereas they would never do it face to face for fear of receiving a Glasgow kiss from the person being insulted. I note that it was apparently considered that the technical problems in extending the Bakerloo Line to Camberwell were too great to overcome, when not only did they extend the Central Line under the extremely problematic Hackney Marshes 60 years ago but it was perfectly possible to build the much more ambitious Channel Tunnel. Where there's the will ...

If you look at the Undergound map for the 30s and early post-war period, you will see a dotted line projected Bakerloo extension to Camberwell. As a kid I had a washing up cloth with this proposed extension shown on it. But it never happened - gawd knows why, as they managed to drive the Victoria Line into deepest Sarf London.

A maternity wear shop for ED? What a great idea! Why didn't someone come up with that before now?

And Wanstead does have the Underground going straight to the City and West End (from both Wanstead and Snaresbrook Stations), which ED doesn't, and won't, have. I seem to remember that at one time it was planned that the E London Line would go through ED, but this was later changed to Denmark Hill.