Doodle1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thanks for all your replies ..As an atheist, I > guess I was being a tad naive. > My son does believe in god... Although he also > believes in Father Christmas! > I will def look up woodcraft folk... I know the son of the founder of the woodcraft folk. He is a lovely man, crazy as a coot, and at his advanced age still smokes reefer. And god is Father Christmas