benmorg Wrote: > > It's isn't much of a muchness though. Denmark Hill > to Victoria is currently 9 minutes. If you have to > change at London Bridge and then Charing Cross you > make three journeys, which will take at least 40 > minutes altogether. Going via Clapham will take > about 50 minutes. ELL to Canada Water followed by > Jubilee line and then District Line is a massive > diversion and another 3-train journey. How is that > "just as quick"? I know the DH-Victoria route is the quickest for the overground section but if you want to get into the West End the DH-LB-CX route is faster. I've done both for years and when you take into account (particularly at busy times) how far Victoria really is from the West End and how busy the tube is from there, the LB/CX route is much quicker. You can also pick up the Jubilee Line at London Bridge if you want to go further West. Im not saying I like the fact that the Victoria service is reducing but having done both routes for many years I hardly ever use the Victoria route at peak times if I can help it.