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Sorry mickmac - I see your point but what I'm saying is that on a reasonably intelligent forum such as this I would hope that people would be more wound up about what this current pope represents than they would be about a few silly pictures.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eh - edcam > > Because Men abuse children does not make it > acceptable to be "shown" on a forum. > > What other abuse would you think should be ok to > be shown here ? What a strange response. So it's acceptable to endorse the pope's visit, considering his flagrant disregard for human rights, allowing young people to think that what he stands for is ok? Why would anyone let their children into this part of the forum if they didn't want them to see some challenging/controversial content?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mockney piers Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It's a genuine stained glass window, > > > From where? > > Just because its a window does not mean its > acceptable for a "family forum" - if it were a > picture or photo it would not be allowed. > > Can you say where I can see this window? Are these (childish but amusing) photos worse than the reality of what the pope continues to cover up and the suffering that some within the catholic church have caused? I don't think so. On my list of "things I find offensive", these photos are at the back of the queue. Which do you find the most difficult to deal with?

There's a link here re the Protest the Pope March on the 18th and a link to email your MP protesting the visit/encouraging the government and leaders of the main parties to tell him he's a knob.

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What Keef said, and Mockney. I don't know if > there's anything to this, but I wonder how much > the level of vitriol aimed at the Catholic church > has to do with our history as a protestant > country: one in the eye to the pope back then, and > one in the eye to the pope now. > No - the vitriol here is very much directed at this Pope - not Catholicism per se. Although it has to be said that it is one of the more unpleasant religions when it comes to oppression, moral hypocrisy and all the other reasons why organised religion has no place in a modern society. People object very strongly to this Pope as he is more reactionary than any in his place for quite some time, when he could actually be doing some good in his position (as bizarre a concept as that might be!) I (along with many others) also strongly object to paying vast sums of money for his protection while he is here. I thought I was annoyed about cost of the Olympics but in terms of a value:money ratiothis one leaves that particular travesty in the shade!

Invite them in to watch some gay porn.

Thanks mythbusters!

This may be a complete myth but someone once told me that the power it takes to boot up your router regularly if it's been off outweighs any benefits of turning it off overnight.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well it is. That's sort of the point of public > money isn't it? Not in my opinion when there are other priorities that rates should be paying for such as the improvement of local amenities and environment.

Sorry to be cynical but what a waste of council funds in such tight times. This sort of thing should be paid for by local businesses. Bah humbug.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But Ed it has to be taken into account that there > are groups of people that ARE friends. And if we > worried about everything we ever write or say > because someone somewhere might be offended we'd > never speak..... > > You've said it.....there was nothing overtly > offensive and the over reaction is I'm afraid to > say is something I really am not going to bother > with anymore....so to quote the dragon's > Den...'I'm out' (that's not a pun either but it > will be my last word in the lounge or anywhere bar > my football group). I know what you're saying and I do sympathise but the basic fact is that it's a forum accessed by many - some of whom don't know anyone, don't post regularly, perhaps don't have the confidence that others have to post and a little sensitivity needs to be shown. Far be it from me to be the Defender of the Lesbians (although it's quite a nice title!), they can be a bit of an easy target in my experience and jokes about barbers and crewcuts may offend some (whether that's oversensitivity or not.) Nothing wrong with a good debate here though, especially in the lounge. I've engaged in them in the past but you can't forget that a stream of jokes at the expense of one group of people may for some be a joke amongst friends and for others be a bit unpleasant. Similar references around race wouldn't be tolerated would they? Anyway - bought any nice dungarees lately? :))

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The only people making an issue out of this are > people who haven't posted and are complaining. To > descibe the thread as a gay slating thread is the > over reaction imo (and accuses me of something I > and yourself and those others that have posted > would never do) - I would be the first to ask it > be shut down if it was.....and I think it's right > to respond to that. > > Obviously there's a difficult balance to be struck > in a forum where you have a lot of people that > know each other and have met, and new posters who > don't always get the humour or tone of some posts. > But the forum is a real 'community', not a cyber > one so yes, sometimes conversation will resemble > pub conversation more than anonymous cyber stuff. > Mountains out of molehills comes to mind and I do > think everyone just needs to lighten up a little > and calm down. Again that's just my opinion. I didn't complain because I wasn't sufficiently offended but you are very wrong when you say this is a "real community" rather than a "cyber community". You may be chums with some people and know them, in person, which is fine but many posters here see it for exactly what it is - an internet forum where there is a certain amount of etiquette to be followed. I'm gay and I find it very amusing when some of my closer friends take the p*** and are un-PC about my sexuality. Specifically I have several very close lesbian friends and we often rib each other in a way which would be offensive to strangers (and indeed other friends with whom I don't have that kind of relationship.) This only comes about through knowing people well and negotiating unspoken boundaries. This isn't something you can do on an internet forum and you can't expect people who don't know you to develop a thicker skin just because you're not offended. Having said that, I'm sure there's a certain amount of overreaction going on but to dismiss those who are offended is a little patronising don't you think?

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The Rye Hotel is v. gay friendly (male and female.) My gayboy self and my girl loving chums are often there. The title of this thread would be great name for a band.

i-phones are fun but as with all touch-screen phones, useless for typing (and not great phones either). Have a look at the Nokia N900. Best of both worlds. Here

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edcam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Vegetarians are extremely dull. I should know, > I > > used to be one. Thank goodness I was saved by > a > > good steak > > Speak for yourself ed.I've been a vegetarian for > 30 years and it has no influence on my being dull > whatsoever. That remark is just vegism of the > worst type you boring meat eater. Many thanks Narnia. Your post very handily allows me to rest my case!

Vegetarians are extremely dull. I should know, I used to be one. Thank goodness I was saved by a good steak.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like X Factor when the live shows start...but > last year was ruined by those talentless clowns > Jedwood. It's "Jedward". And they were highly amusing (albeit lacking in musical ability.)

Get Colibri moth repellent sachets. they smell nice (essential oils and not at all mothbally.) You can get them in John Lewis (referred to in our house as The Mother Ship.)

A journalist carrying out an unscientific "analysis" carried out under false/dishonest pretences? Surely not?!

Yes. That's ED for you!

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Serious question: when gays or lesbians go out on > a first date, who pays? I can't speak for all the gay boys and girls but personally speaking, on a first date it makes sense to go Dutch. Why anybody would do anything else, gay or straight is baffling to me! Once you know each other a little better then the one with the higher income pays for more. Then you own them and can use it against them in arguments. KIDDING!

ruffers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A celeb journalist eh? Who are you then? I'm sure he/she is a dedicated investigative reporter, whose existence is entirely dedicated to righting wrongs. Maybe?

i-don't think so

What a killjoy! Fireworks are huge fun!