sillywoman

I think Highshore school in Highshore Rd, Peckham SE15 is a school for children with disabilities - but I could be wrong?

I think you're probably right buggie - TBH I can't recall the exact situation at the point where the shoulder dystocia Mum was being asked to push. My response was to the more general query of; "I can understand being told to push if an epidural has been given and the mother has little or no feelin, but cant understand havin mothers pushing, when there is no overwhelming feeling to push". Just as an example of a circumstance when it might be helpful for Mum to have some guidance when pushing. I should've been clearer though.

I think that contractions are driven by the hormone oxytocin, if Mum feels alarmed or anxious during labour (at any point) then her body may produce adrenaline, a super-strong hormone which can reduce or block oxytocin production hence reducing or even stopping the contractions altogether- in those circumstances Mum may need some advice as to when she needs to push. That might explain why TE44? Goodness knows that poor Mum shown last wednesday would have had plenty of adrenaline going through her body in the situation she found herself in - and she wasn't the only one!

Pickle I think you'd do a roaring trade on Northcross Road with them :))

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/02/07/breastfeeding-in-public-your-babys-new-hat-has-arrived/ Check it out;)

Edge of the seat stuff. I remember my Midwife with number 2 telling me about shoulder dystocia & that it was a Midfife's worst nightmare. The moment that Registrar said "McRoberts please" my heart was in my mouth. Though of course I was fairly certain that had the outcome been poor then they wouldn't have shown it (fairly - gulp?) It was the expression on the face of the midwife who was watching the clock that had me rivetted. I thought the Dad was just lovely the way he stayed outwardly so calm and reassuring to poor Mum. Phew. Buggie, you weren't alone, but I guess it takes all sorts. That boy (Jack) is very lucky to have a young woman who loves him so much. I hope that he appreciates her loyalty and acceptance, and if he doesn't then I hope he comes to before he loses her to someone more reliable.

just got the kindle version - looking forward to it :)

For my money I'd look at Pymers Mead on South Croxted Road - architecturally similar to Great Brownings, though the houses won awards I believe and are very well designed. Lots of light & surprisingly spacious, but with the added attraction of being very close to both West Dulwich shops and DCPS. By close I mean easy walking distance for adults and children. definitely worth a look if you can find one to rent.

Things I've found helpful: Patience, tolerance & a very very good shared sense of humor. Time out when you have a blazing row (we find our optimum tim to be about 4-6 hours)- it gives perspective! The absolute knowledge that you're both in it for the long run. Showing your appreciation for each other in small, and occasionally big, ways. Congratulations :)) SW

I didn't see that programme Jennyh, but I'm willing to bet that there are loads of kids out there who didn't bother with crawling much (if at all) who have gone on to be perfectly normal developers. I know of two just in East Dulwich. Neither of them crawled - not at all, not even backwards - and just went straight from siting to walking, one at 13 months, the other at 16 months. Both are now bright active & intelligent teenagers. Personally I wouldn't worry too much just yet, but if you are fretting then I suggest you seek reassurance from your health visitor, development & any delay therein is their area of expertise. They'll soothe your anxieties I'm sure.

Does anyone still do the BRAN diet for reintroducing food after a tummy bug? It's something that has stood me in good stead through my years of dealing with vomiting children. B= brown bread (no butter or anything else initially) R= Brown rice A= Apples (best skinned & grated intitially N= Aaargh, can't remember, 'nana's (ba) possibly? Anyway by introducing thee foods back into their diet first it seemed to aid and speed recovery.

Hmmm, to my shame it's 9 months on 16 years (and counting) off. How embarrassing! :-$

and I've wondered . . . WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING MOTHERS MEETINGS - ARE YOU CROSS?

Ruth_Baldock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My husband retweeted something about this, then > came home from work and ribbed me endlessly about > my bordering-on-obsession about going to cEnter > parcs. I will never mention it again now... snigger perhaps he could treat you to a trip up the OXO tower instead Ruth? splutter, snort. (sorry - so puerile, just couldn't resist. That thread really tickled me)

This was the post that had me snorting into my coffee; "It's the times you have together That you'll carry with you forever Take it up the arse at Centre Parcs I don't think they'll be rushing to amend their brochure, tbh." snigger :)):-$

Thanks Sunbob, thats really helpful. Does anyone know of any others? Did I imagine it or did someone on the forum used to keep a family room 'list of local playgroups' with days and times on? Does it still exist? If so can anyone send me a copy or a link to it please?

If so where are they & what time, & can we bring a 12 week old?

Umm, sorry to be asking the bleedin obvious - what's the NCSS?

are you saying by boys are rough Sanne Panne!! ;)

If all other things are equal & your gut instinct is in confusion I'd go for the one closest to where you live so you can walk him to school. Your boy will be going to school with friends from surrounding streets - it gives children a real sense of ownership and a physical sense of community by the time they're 7 or 8 to be walking to school each day with their friends and friends parents. Please feel free to ignore this advice though - I know that sort of thing isn't high on everyone's priority list and children can be happy in all sorts of school/travel environments :))

Althoooough - I've had 2 children go through, both boys and though 1/2 Moon was lovely, with hindsight I wouldn't chose it again (and indeed didn't for 3rd son). It just didn't suit my boys, it didn't suit their style of learning (they were very much 'classic guns 'n' chasing type boys) and though they were safe and well looked after `i wouldn't say they were particularly happy. Id send a girl without hesitation, if she were a girly please-approve-of-me-& give-me-a-sticker type. We went for Mustard Seed Nursery with number 3 son and it was smashing.

Horsebox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Drxyster Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > PLease stop your thieving activities. > > It's awful that your milk got nicked, but the > thief and his wee doggy probably don't read the > forum. > > Have you informed the polis? Ahahahahaha - very good joke. The police - they're sure to be helpful . . .ummm NOT!!

Yes, after all my grumpiness earlier in the thread I was there today too with a group of Mums & babies. It was heaving - I've never seen it so busy. The one (as far as my experience shows) nice waitress was serving - possibly the same one that was chatting to your niece amyw? I have to say that I have found the others, and the owner to be fairly surly and even a bit unhelpful in the past. I did stop & chat briefly with one of my Mums groups who were sat around a table in the back room, so they do still have seating there, just much less of it because of the deli counter. Anyway judging by today their trade isn't suffering at all! Thanks for the other suggestions, I'll check out the bread-of-life, and I do love the Actress - I'd never thought of going there in the day. What time do they open, does anyone know? Also, on the recommendation of another forumite (thanks Ruth) I went to the Mum & baby group at "The Crooked Well" on Grove Lane today. It was absolutely lovely, I highly recommend it. They have great big sofa's and a lot of space for babies (and Mums & Dads). The owners were really welcoming and said that they're trialing it to see if they get enough parents to make it worthwhile. I really hope thye do because it's good to see stuff happening in North ED/ South Camberwell. And they've made it a really good pub if you fancy an evening out too - she said their food has had very good reviews in the Observer & suchlike. So if you're stuck for something to do on a Friday morning, you could do a lot worse than head to 'the Crooked Well' for a hot choc and some chat.

I used to arrange the majority of my postnatal reunions in there for exactly that reason. It was spacious and had plenty of room for pushchairs and buggies, plus the great sofa's. I'm gutted that they've changed it all. Combined with the also newly done and now equally useless-for-baby-groups Green & Blue I'm a bit stumped for anywhere spacious enough to meet all my Mums, Dads & babies for a catch-up coffee. You'd think that if anywhere was going to have a cafe catering to baby groups it would be East Dulwich, but apparently not :( Well, I'll be taking my business elsewhere (when I can think of somewhere to take it!) and I hope other disgruntled buggy pushing parents will too.

Haven't followed the rest of the thread, but just to say that the Nunhead family did move after their child got a place (a bigger council place finally came through after 10 years of waiting - no buying a "perfect house in Camberwell or Nunhead" for them), the other families were in their addresses when they applied and are there still. Dorothy; In reply to: "Yes, I am quite certain that a disproportionate number of children at Charter come from families who urgently had to rent very close to the school for a year or so and then wouldn't you know it find the perfect house to buy in Camberwell or Nunhead." Well that may be the case, - I don't know what knowledge you're basing your opinion on so can't call it really - but just to say that it certainly hasn't been my experience at all of the families/kids we've come to know through The Charter. They're just local families who live in the vicinity. None of them have rented or moved recently in any of the three years my kids are in, but it may just be that my experience is exceptional (or not)?