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thanks pippa! we're going to see Katie tomorrow. Aiko has just gotten up from a nap and I swear she's grown... just put her into a 0-3 month baby grow. I've just realised all the actual clothes we have are 3-6 months so she has nothing to wear now we're going out!!

Great news Caroline - really pleased for you and was lovely to bump into you and bump the other day! :) Congrats to all the new mums. Nicky, Sal & Ruth - got my fingers crossed for all of you. I'm finally getting a bit more on track with my little one, but she's been diagnosed with a posterior tongue tie which explains a heck a lot of our struggles over the past few weeks and the slow weight gain despite hours of feeding. Unfortunately NHS won't treat it for at least another week though and I don't think I can bear it so I'm looking into whether someone will do it privately asap. Aiko's going to be 1 month old next Tuesday! Can't believe it's gone so fast... Hubby went back to work this week and we have managed fine, so think I am ready to start meeting up and socialising... :)

Hello, I've been suffering from pelvic pains since I gave birth a little over 2 weeks ago, although didn't have SPD during pregnancy. I've managed to get a referral for a physio from my GP and should be covered by health insurance. Would anyone be able to recommend a good local physio for this type of problem?? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks!

Congratulations Anna! Sounds amazing - I'm looking forward to the day I have a second child so I can have my homebirth!! Things have settled down a treat here and baby is now feeding well. Her weight is being closely monitored though as she lost so much the first 2 days and had only put on 20g between her last two weigh-ins. She's a bit of a piggy though so I'm sure she'll be fine when she gets weighed tomorrow.. fingers crossed. x

hi ruth - i had scary BH labour-like pains for 2.5 weeks before Aiko arrived! And ended up being 2 days late...

Merry Christmas all! I'm in the postnatal ward this morning with baby Aiko, hoping to get discharged today. No Idea what we'll be having for dinner since our planned roast certainly isn't getting cooked! Baby arrived 30 hours after waters broke - waited it out so she could have a christmas eve birthday! And yes, labour ward has been ridiculously busy. Good luck to all the home birthers - it was good I was in hospital in the end, but did have to spend 8 hours in labour without a proper room!! Hypnobirthing was a godsend. See you soon with babies! Xx

hello! Baby is still safely tucked up in my tum, but sadly I think I'll have to give tonight a miss - hubby has been out after work a couple of evenings this week so would like to see him today! Hope you have a great time - pampering would have been lovely. :) Caroline - have you looked at the spinning babies website? There are some tips on there about inversion etc. to try and help turning as well as tips on mapping your baby's position. xx

Congratulations Emma! Exciting times! :) Were you planning a home birth??

Yak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Back to the OP, what interests me most is the > different stats for home births for first and > second time mothers. Why is there such a > difference? Is it because the mother is more aware > of what is going on a second time round, and > therefore more able to escalate concerns? That's > one area I'd really like to see more research in. It seems to me that the categorisation of 'low risk' mothers is much narrower once you get to second & third time mums. There are many potential things that can go wrong once you get to the childbirth that can't be predicted from an otherwise normal, healthy pregnancy - but once these things have happened with the first child, it may then indicate it's inappropriate for you to have a home birth the second time around. The second thing of course, is that labour is quicker and more straightforward with subsequent children anyway. For me, one of the most striking things from the report was the stat that as many as 1 in 200 births to LOW RISK first time mothers have a poor outcome, even in a hospital environment. In what other context would the probability of these sorts of outcomes ever be considered a low risk??

Just thought I should say - we ended up having the baby shower at Le Chandelier yesterday in their Moroccan Room and it was superb. The staff were fantastic even though we're certainly not the easiest bunch. They were really helpful, allowed us to pre-order a wide variety of food (we had afternoon teas, canapes and a la carte as well) and everything we had was delicious. Everyone left happy and very very full. :) Thanks Pickle for the recommendation!

On way home now so should be there shortly after 7 x

Yes - on the list: - bellenden belle & david - susanjvr & hubby - me & or hubby (undecided!) - littlemoo as its a 3 hr course I think we probably want to start at 630? Caroline - are you happy to do it at your house? Think that would probably make most sense. See you later! It's December!! Xx

We're now 6-7 people for the resus course on the 12th. Are there any more takers? x

hello, First Aid peeps have gotten back to me. W/b 12th December they have a trainer available for any weekday evening. Let me know what works for you and I'll keep a tally. My personal preference is for Mon 12th but I will be free any of those days (if I'm not a mother yet!). xx

I've read the study. You can find it here: http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d7400 They did the comparison against low risk mums in obstetric units - they also did an even more stringent test comparing low risk mums without any complicating conditions at onset of labour, but the rarity of poor outcomes meant they couldn't draw statistically significant conclusions...

I've asked for some alternative dates as well, so we'll see what they say. I'd prob rather do it sooner rather than later though, for obvious reasons... ;) Failing that, I guess I'll have to send hubby along instead!

same! I would be interested to know too.. why not reply in public??

Hello, I've contacted Emma at First Aid for Life - she's had a cancellation for this Saturday morning so could do a course for up to 8 people. It would be ?45 each for 3 hours - but given the short notice, I will ask her if she's willing to do it for her normal weekday rate of ?35 each. It sounds like a pretty comprehensive course and good value compared to other ones I've seen. They have plenty of manikins and you get a comprehensive paediatric first aid manual to take away (and certificate too if you want it...) Drop me a PM if you're interested - and also if you're able to offer up your home as a venue(!!). I'll try calling around a few places in the meanwhile, but I guess they might charge us. I've attached the Course Outline she sent me - but they can also tailor it according to which areas we're most interested in covering. Sara ==== EDIT: Just to say - now looking at evenings for w/b 12th December...!

Someone posted this in the Winter Babies Club:- http://hackneydoula.co.uk/?p=492 I thought it was a much more informative view of what's actually in the study - and the links to the actual study itself are there for you to read for yourself. I'm planning for a homebirth, but am under no delusion that I may well need to transfer to the hospital - midwives have been very open about it and gave lots of factual information at their monthly homebirth talk. The fact that the hospital is mere minutes away was probably the single biggest factor in deciding to at least try for it!

Does anyone know what the catchment is for Goose Green??

hi Hannah, I went to the homebirth talk on a Saturday and thought it was excellent. A couple who'd had a homebirth were there to tell us their story & answer questions (hers was a 30+ hr labour) as well as lots of printed info to take away. It was extremely popular the day we went though - room was a bit small! The only slightly annoying thing was that people still early on in pregnancy asked lots of irrelevant questions that you'd cover in antenatal classes, so session was a fair bit longer than if they'd just focused on Homebirth questions. If peeps are up for a night in on 15th, I'd be happy to join - I'll be 39 weeks by then... maternity leave starting next week. :) Pickle - I hope you're alright. Ditto what Hannah said. xx

Hello, No luck yet with resus course. I'll try calling the chap again tomorrow. Re: Wednesday - breastfeeding workshop is just the NHS one which I signed up for from the forms when I had my booking with Kings. It's a LONG session though so won't be around until 2pm-ish, so I'm guessing I may miss you at the Gardens cafe. I should be able to come along on Thurs night - decided I am probably a bit too pregnant now, so haven't taken up tickets to see Jessie J & Kelly Rowland that night! :(

hey ladies, i'm giving the breastfeeding workshop a go next Weds morning. Technically still not on maternity yet, but could nip out in the afternoon if you're doing coffee at the Gardens cafe! saw this thread on infant resuscitation and am trying to see if good ol' Norman will do a course for us Winter baby parents - though judging from the posts there have been lots of enquiries and not that much organised: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,679894,page=1 aiming for a date before baby arrives so if I get some possible dates I'll let you know and we'll see who can make it! x

hello - I've been a bit awol. Couldn't make it last Thurs unfortunately as had last hypnobirthing class. Due date is starting to feel a bit imminent now! I've been told about sea salt caramel crepes at this place and am keen to try: http://www.rabotestate.com/boroughmarket_cafe.html Not sure if anyone might fancy / be able to go along one weekday from 5th Dec onwards? Figure I should still be okay to venture as far as London Bridge that week...

is it very hot in Rome? I had swollen feet and hands when I was in Italy at 25 weeks - but it was definitely due to the temperature!