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At reception had temp taken on wrist by thru a hole in plexi glass. Hand santiser on counter, patients already wearing masks before entering the building - don't know if theey hadn't if wd have been offered one. Waiting for flue jab..3 others in waiting room -sat way more than 6 ft apart. DMC at Chadwick RD.

A week from Chadwick Rd surgery to5 mins walkaway

Have moved a wee bit out of Firest Hill Rd' catchment area and now realise how good they are.

> I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just tired of the > assumption that because one person is having > problems, the entire site is to blame. The vast > majority of people clearly have no issue with it, > given that the wardens are not handing out tickets > across streets, so it seems to me that the more > likely issue here is not the site, but the user. Doen'tlook to me as tho' only one person is having problems, and what about all those who aren't members of EDF - haven't heard their views.

I had similar problems trying to get a bulk refuse connection, and soent literally several hours going a round in circles. Ended up managing to spak to someone very senior, I have a tremor and cannot use a mobil so I mentioned "discrimination, disabled, equalopportunities" etc and some how my payment was taken. I am sorry but can't remember exactly how.

I said "OK in long run theselves" but it IS not just elderly that can catch it and do long term damage to Health. More younger people are getting it now, and not always mildly. ------------------------------------------------------- > the elderley are wearing them because they are > frightened

So the elderly on the whole unless wearing super expensive masks are trying to protect others, Ok n in long runs themselves.

Yep flue killss thousands and that is inspite of vaccines which are racing to keep up, it is not accepted which is why new ones or variation on a theme are worked on all the time. Most vulnerabable people excluding those whith cognitive difficulties, know and do keep away from anyone who has flue symptoms and colds, sneeze into tissues etc. Also mask wearking in shops protects the shop workers, you don't want to wear them for a short while, how do you think it must be like to wear them for 8 hrs? Ah, maybe shopwokers are also expendable - lots more unemplyed looking to take thier places. Pople can choose if want to go to pubs to places of liesure demanding mask wearing, but choosing not to go food shopping is a choice btween a healthy balanced diet and possibly going going hungry. ------------------------------------------------------- > Everyone is acting in a way that suggests that > somehow I want to line up and kill people off - > don't be so utterly hyperbolic. I am merely > stating the cold hard and uncomfortable truth that > bugs like COVID can and do kill people every year, > particularly those with terminal conditions. > > We may not want to hear this, and we may be > uncomfortable accepting this, but if you look each > year, if there is a bad flu season, excess deaths > soar - and its the same population. We regularly > accept and take for granted that a heavy flu > season will kill 20-30,000 excess people and as a > society we are completely accepting of this. > > Yet COVID has caused some people to act in a way > which suggests they think that no bug of this type > has ever killed people before. I genuinely think > if we'd done nothing then we would probably have > not noticed much difference to society. > > But we've instead chosen to take the most radical > and extreme response, shutting our economy down, > doing massive long term harm to it, and harming > our ability to fund the NHS on the medium to long > term. We've deliberately chosen to pause access to > healthcare for many people who need it to get them > treatement that could make difference between a > positive or very bad prognosis, and we're doing so > in order fundamentally to shield those who are > always at risk regardless. > > This isn't eugenics, this is a simple truth - flu > bugs kill certain swathes of people each year, > we've accepted this for centuries, and now we're > acting as if this is the first time we've found > this out. We've also massively overblown in the > public mind the risk - research shows that in > surveys members of the public think that 7% of the > UK population has died from COVID, not something > like 0.001% (many of whom would have died anyway > of something else this year) - we've lost the > ability to think rationally and objectively. > > I don't doubt guidance made sense for those at > risk, and in very targeted areas - but the blanket > approach was too much, for too long and it has > done far more damage to us as a country than a > relatively small number of deaths. > > In years to come I genuinely think the history > books will say that we overreacted and that the > damage done in the medium to long term vastly > outweighed the good done in the short term.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-ill-disabled-people Try broading your reading material Jimlad48

Still shocked by Jimlad's comments. Why not do as Hitler ended up doing openly that is killing off those who were not productive members of society ..Yes German kids with special needs, frail elderly and so on as they were a drain on government resources. Also point out that many peeps more vulnerable to Covid normally manage thier conditions, are productive, support families and are not a finacial drain on society and can have reasonable life expectancy. Wearing masks is not just about giving the vulnerable a couple weeks more lives. Yes we need to get the economy working n Gov. is doing a fine balancing act between that andmaking sure NHS can cope which it won't do if beds filled by those under discussion. If people can't/don't want to put up with mild discomfort (exceptions being those with conditions including hearing impaired who lip) then I fear for us as a society.

because of a bug that is doing what bugs do and having a clear out of the vulnerable who always die of these things. ... Huh am not afraid of dying in fact have DNR in place but going with help of covod is a gahstly way to go, also cdrecover and have brain damage and be in far worse previous state than before. ------------------------------------------------------- > Personally I'll choose to go to the one that > doesnt enforce mask wearing. > > Wear one if you want to, but I'm tired of the > hysterical overreaction, attack on our civil > liberties all because of a bug that is doing what > bugs do and having a clear out of the vulnerable > who always die of these things. Sorry, bluntly > put, we're screwing our economy to buy a week or > two extra for people with severe life limiting > illnesses anyway. > > Meanwhile the NHS is being forced to delay all > manner of treatments for plenty of other > conditions, which could be saved because of COVID. > How many people are going to die who could have > been saved because we're trying to protect those > who are likely on their way out anyway? > > I am utterly fed up of watching friends businesses > collapse, people end up unemployed, education > suffer all to protect a tiny minority of people. > The cases nationally are miniscule, but we've > essentially chosen to bankrupt the country and put > future generations in debt to protect people on > the basis of some very dodgy science and statistic > use and a set of guidelines thare nonsensical. > > I'd take it more seriously if it was blanket masks > everywhere, but its not - the guidance makes no > sense, its being invented on the hoof and relies > on stupidity like refusing permission to go to a > friends house, but allowing you to meet them in > Nandos for dinner - this is neither coherent nor > sensible. Meanwhile Cummings and his ilk get away > with anything they want... > > Give us back normal life and let those who want to > take precautions and others do as they wish.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TfL was ?1 billion in deficit before the lockdown. > He used ?600m for a fares freeze which did not > benefit Londoners- only tourists What i was thinking! The fit and mobile cd always walk, surely many peeps live within 30 mins walk of a restaurant? Maybe not- happy to stand corrected. I am a shielded wheelchair user and had been told to avoid f2f b4 lockdown, social distancing etc. No longer took minicabs or uber to places had previously done so but walked if about an hr away. - well husband did as he accompanied my in chair. Helped keep him fit as well. It was very interesting we discovered streets we had no idea existed as we tried out different routes.

Might not be kids playing. Burglars do this to see if anyone in, tho' usual practice if door is answered is to ask for someone with fictitious name. They then apologise n move on to next doorbell.

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are books not capable of carrying infection, even > for a limited time? I remember when public > library books carried a label requiring > notification if the book had come into contact > with anyone with a notifiable disease; and the > legal requirement on the borrower to, in effect, > put the book into isolation, still remains: > https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22/secti > on/25/enacted. It's been questioned, but still > retained. > https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2013/08/odd-laws-of-the- > united-kingdom/. And Covid-19 has itself been > added to the list of notifiable diseases. > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-cov > id-19-listed-as-a-notifiable-disease Books from Southwarks wonderful home lubrary service are now delivered by librarians with plastic face shield and mask etc, in Paper sacks, left at socially acceptatable distance and librarians stand even farther away to see that you take them into dwelling. Advised not to handle the books for 72 hrs. Asa shielded service user I have evry confidence in this protocol. Collection will be carried in the same way but in reverse when preumably books will also be quarrantined for 72 hrs.

If you get an unsolicitsd sales call make a note of time,number if one does show on your screen..try get firm's name, and then report it..if enuf of us do these *****will be fined. If it ias a fraud call do as above and report. This cd save many naive peeps losing money.

If anyone is close to SE154RQ, Bellenden RD between Elm n Holly Groves, I wd be a very happy bunny if you cd drop them off. I am shielded , and as I have a tremor can't do much else but read, sighs not even go to Charity shops for books I also have an eclectic mix of fiction waitin to find a home which you are welcome to pick up at same time as drop off. When I feel a bit better will be putting the books (and weather more stable) that I have read on forecourt for others to enjoy.

Yeo can take a while but do eventually n it's gd to know somone else is enjoying them ------------------------------------------------------- > I've been leaving books on a box on my garden wall > (when it's not raining, obviously) Most have gone.

SpringTime Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You're more likely to pick up Weil's disease if > you're dipping at the edge of freshwater where > it's slower moving and more likely to be "Fresh Water" is., > and especially if you have cuts. Infected cows' > urine also contributes to Weil's disease - it > isn't just down to rats. Accidentally swallowing > water isn't a big factor. For the 10,000s of > swimmers using UK freshwater every year the > infection rates are low. Cover any cuts with > plasters and always wash yourself properly after > swimming. Have fun! Good to read was thinking of Surrey Docks where water comparitely still...maybe i dont understand whater is. Yep I forgot a bout cuts - was going back years when I was working and a risk assessment wass taken when I was supporting peeps to sail. I did try argue minor risk but!!!!!

Rothergythe swimming.. be alert a week later for Weils iseaase symptoms..its carried by rats

Interessting web site..there ia another that shows commercial flights - where from and where to.

BT weren't coping about a month ago..mine packed up and stressing fact disabled shielded etc., on a Friday agreed that little modem I had frome previous problem wd be conected on the the Monday. When I expostualed at the wait was told that others were having to wait a month. Wasn't impressed when we moved a couple of years ago to find it took them nearly a month to connect us.

Paddling pool in Peckham Park gone was roughly where the wild flowers are. Kids used to love the out door pool just passed the Kings Arms. Shops that Nymbies wdn't even look at all gone. Used to be a Freemans catalogue shop.. and Oh Dickie Dirts . Lots of parking, usually outside where you lived. Bandstand in Peckhma Park... Aviary in Dulwich/ Herne Tavern used too have a covered area for kids to play in and I think there was some play equipment.

Any one on here a recipient of this or knows someone who is? Being house bound and especially vulnerable who can't have visitors must be missing this wonderful service

My access has been fine. Not that ppleased with it, too many of my perisables' use by date farto close to delivery..seems to be a case of feast or famine.

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