Funny things though forums.... What makes one succeed and another fail? On the face of it there's no reason why a neighbouring spot could equal or better the EDF. I've always thought it's in the foundation of the administration (credible, neutral, assertive with a touch of wit). Then you need small team of (unpaid) volunteers behind that to give you the man power to deal with the daily idiots, bots, spammers etc that threaten measured content. And then you still need to attract a critical mass of a range of posters who'll make it all worth reading. The EDF started with most of that in place. The admin here have had the odd slip up but have managed to get lot more right and continue to do...mostly unpaid. Take a peek at other local forums and the admin is clumsy, over firm and often small minded. They are a void of life and run by men with golf jumpers and a Magic Tree in the car.