Earl Aelfheah

Gnashing of teeth isn't anti democratic is it? One can still voice displeasure, seems like a democratic right tbh

I nearly got run down by a BMW the other day. What is it about that particular car brand?

No one is being disrespectful. It's a bus lane - there are warnings already in the form of road markings and signage. The road layout hasn't recently changed, there aren't new rules being put in place.

There have been so many threads about this particular bus lane. I don't get the problem. It's pretty clear that it's a bus lane and there is no obvious need to use it.

Positive, hmmmm. Well, I am positively ENRAGED at the terrible service in.... only joking. I am a big fan of Oddonos and the lovely people who run it. Their salted caramel ice cream is the nuts. As is their pistachio (that is literally the nuts).

You're right of course Jeremy, although it seems less and less likely that we'll be able to remain in the single market (not sure this was ever really very likely). With the ongoing uncertainty (which is likely to last years) and our probable departure from the single market eventually - it's hard to see how in the medium term our economy isn't going to suffer. Of course the problem is, one will never be able to demonstrate the effect either way. Whether the economy does well, or it does not, who can prove that staying in would have been better or worse? People will seek out the evidence which appears to support their view and everyone will think they've been proved right.

I don't like being 'trapped' in some of the segregated lanes. If there is glass, or if someone steps out, often there is little room to avoid the hazzard.

Still feels the need to mention Del Boy. Wonder if there will ever be a time when a journalist feels confident to mention Peckham without reference to only fools and horses?

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Give me a quiet route rather than a segregated cycle lane > on a main road any day. ^this

Sorry to hear about this - horrible.

Someone was spotted not wearing a pashmina. Police escorted them to Jigsaw and calm was returned to the Village.

P.O.U.S.theWonderCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rants have ripples, Rahrah. And yours have sunk > me. POUS - you're right off course - tribalism isn't helpful. I wouldn't usually talk about 'the left' or 'the right' as though either is anything more than hugely reductionist and simplistic. But when people start couching their arguments in those terms (and whilst I'm still hugely pissed off) it's hard to not to say 'feck it let's play that game then'. It is childish, it is just ranting and no, it doesn't move us forward. But anger is part of he grieving process, so let me get it out of my system. I promise I'll move on to acceptance in time and start being a bit more rational. ;-)

I think you're right DaveR, I'm fairly optimistic that the Republicans will get things back under control (I hope so)

...and this is not a bad place to have a rant BTW.

Except it wasn't tribalism I was cricising, it was people encouraging xenophobia and intollerance and then refusing to take responsibility for what comes of it.

I don't see where I've been hypocritical btw.

The tribal thing isn't helpful and there are many republicans / conservatives who are appalled by Trump as much as anyone. But when people start saying "it's the Lefts fault", well, its shows such a lack of self awareness that I find it hard not to play that game back.

I agree that it's not helpful, but frankly there is a lot of hypocrisy and I'm not yet ready to 'start the healing'

It's like getting pissed, crashing the car and then saying "you know, I think there are some serious questions to be asked of the police here...they really should have beeen more effective at stopping me".

Never mind the hand wringing on the left, personally I think there should be calls for some soul searching on the right.

It's interesting, whenever 'the left' has tried to speak to the disenfranchised, talked about inequality, suggested a fairer distribution of wealth, or a better deal for those who have been left behind by globalisation - they've been told to be realistic, to stop trying to turn the clock back and accused of being 'extremists', pursuing the 'politics of envy'. In short, they're told to tack to the right. But guess what - shifting the centre of gravity ever rightwards brings the fringes ever closer to the mainstream and before you know it people like 'the Donald' are getting elected. Now the more moderate 'right' are saying 'this is the lefts fault for listening to us, for not offering a counter narrative'... 'The left should have provided a counter weight to avoid the increasingly out of control lurch to the right. They should have done more to make themselves heard over our shrieking'. ...Or else it's 'the lefts' fault for 'closing down discussion of immigration'. Funny, but looking at the daily, rabid headlines put out by a sizable proportion of the press, the 'go home' vans our delightful PM authorised to drive through areas of high immigration and the attempts to paint our city's major as a dangerous Islamist (for just a few examples), one might be forgiven for thinking that actually it's open season on immigrants and minorities and has been for many, many years now). I personally, can't believe the bleating on 'the right' of politics at the moment. They've used dog whistle politics, they've pandered to UKIP, they've taken advantage of the fear and division the right wing press have sowed for their own advantage, rather than challenging it. And now, they cry - it's not our fault, it's the people on the other side - they should have been more effective against us.

I thought the right were all for personal responsibility and owning ones own problems etc. Trumps your guy. Stop blaming everyone else for what you've created.

So the right launch a really nasty and divisive campaign backed by a virilant tabloid press and it's the lefts fault that we end up with Trump? Oh, and if you criticise him, or suggest that his rhetoric is that of a bully and a bigot (even though it self evidently is), that's just pushing more voters into his arms! Best to keep the criticism to ta minimum, accept the 'will of the people' (around a quarter of them anyway), and acknowledge that it's actually the fault of those who oppose him. There are people who have legitimate grievances, but voting in Trump is shameful after the things he's said and we shouldn't try to appease him or his supporters. Trump and his supporters repeatedly promote 'straight talking', well we should give them it. The right created the tea party movement, bill o'reilly and Trump. They've enabled this man and decent Republicans should be (and in many cases are) ashamed.

This: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/everyone-to-blame-for-twats-like-trump-except-the-people-who-vote-for-them-20161113117081 (Everyone to blame for twats like Trump 'except the people who vote for them')

This is interesting: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/this-american-life/id201671138?mt=2&i=377270248 this American Life episode 600.