Earl Aelfheah

that house would cost a fortune to maintain and you'd be rattling around it with nothing to do, in the middle of nowhere. Looks nice though.

minder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely the OP would have done some homework on > where's best to park? Seems a strange question as > they probably know parking is a problem anyway. Parking's not a problem on Quorn Road (or the surrounding roads).

I didn't realise Melange have reopened on Maxted Road - good to know.

Chief Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Park somewhere else and catch a bus or cab to the > station please. We don't want you, and other > non-residents, clogging up our roads! They're not 'your' roads though. They're public roads. There is more than enough parking space around Quorn Road, just across from the station.

If he'd put it in those words no, but I think if he'd been upfront about it, the story would have died fairly quickly, yes. By putting out a succession of obviously evasive statements, the press sensed blood and possibly a much bigger story.

That's really not the point. Cameron made 5 statements all intended to mislead, or at the very least obfuscate. That's pretty inexcusable, especially when you've been calling for transparency. The story wouldn't have gone anywhere but for his attempts to mislead the press and the public.

I'm pretty sure Uncleglen is a closet communist.

I'm currently intending to vote in, but must admit to feeling fairly ambivalent about the whole thing.

It's a fair point Dover, but Cameron has pontificated on this a fair bit and as someone who makes the rules, he should rightly be held to a higher standard. The biggest issue for me was that he spend five days making weasel statements and trying to hide the fact of his past interests in Blairmore. This is someone who has repeatedly called for transparency in peoples tax affairs.... And he's the PM ffs. I don't think it's a hanging offence, but he's shown pretty poor judgment and is entirely to blame for creating this circus.

I feel pretty old, does that mean I can have the seat.

Everyone gets that there is a difference between breaking the law and not. There is also a clear difference between a 'wink and a nod' when paying in cash and simply paying someone in cash. Not everyone does the former. Morality isn't clear cut and each person must do what they believe to be right, but that is not to suggest that one can't engage in discussions of ethics and morality. As someone else stated, not everything which is legal is moral and not everything which is illegal necessarily immoral. In terms of your three points: -I do agree there is (inevitably) hypocrisy in this debate. But that doesn't mean that a debate of both how things are and how things ought to be is not worthwhile, or instructive. Cameron himself has been fairly hypocritical in my view and we can reasonably expect him as PM (and someone who influences policy / law) to hold himself to a higher standard. - I don't accept that people are too stupid to understand the differences between avoidance and evasion. The grey area has shrunk since the general avoidance rules came in at the beginning of the year, but prior to that there was fairly broad scope for morally questionable avoidance (which may or may not have been considered 'legitimate' depending on one's point of view). - It's up to each individual to pay the appropriate tax. If you somehow conspire in tax avoidance then that's pretty clear cut. I don't accept that everyone does this. I don't like the supposed 'truism' that 'everyone's at it'. It's simply not true.

I get that you can't park within a certain distance of a crossing, but due to the way this area is recessed, parking there does not in anyway obscure sight lines down the road. Seems pretty arbitrary to me.

I'm not sure what your point is. It seems to be 'everyone's at it', but perhaps I've missed something.

Just received the governments 'vote to stay' leaflet. Whilst I think it's pretty rum that they've sunk taxpayers money into promoting only one side of the arguenent, I have to admit it's a pretty decent bit of propaganda.

Paying a cabbie, a shop keeper, or a builder in cash is not tax avoidance. Cash is a legitimate form of payment, it's for the seller to ensure they declare their income, the onus is not on the purchaser. To think everyone is on the fiddle, exaggerating their expense claims, or taking up every offer to 'reduce their tax liability' that's put before them, is simply not true.

Yeah, i totally agree Jeremy and I don't see any reason why they shouldn't coexist. like I say, it seems pretty intolerant of whoever wrote the 'protest'.

I agree totally about sentencing, it has to take account of circumstances, but there should be the option of very serious penalties available to judges. I think the key change is bigger than just knifes though, it's about how we bring up boys.

I agree

I had understood that Cameron had purchased shares in Blairmore himself as opposed to inheriting them, but perhaps I have misunderstood this?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On the John The Unicorn this morning. > > 'F**k Yuppies' as a tag > > Someone isn't happy. That's a shame. I actually visited 'the Unicorn' for the first time last week and it was OK (probably a bit young for me). It did have a (slightly) mixed crowd in there, although admittedly far more white and middle class than would be reflective of the wider area. It isn't as though Rye Lane is full of 'yuppie bars' though, far from it, so seems like a somewhat intolerant response to me.

On the wider issue, the UK is very much complicit in helping people obscure the source of their income and in avoiding tax - which means in many cases aiding gangsters and despots, (as well as those who simply want to reduce their contribution to the societies in which they operate and profit). As I?ve said previously the current government has started to address some of this, but they could, and probably now will I?m sure, do more. If nothing else, such an outcome would make the whole furore worthwhile in my book. On the specific issue of the Prime Minister - Someone asked what Cameron has actually done wrong. He?s been hypocritical and evasive, and shown very poor judgement. That?s it. I don?t suppose he?ll resign over it, but if I were him I would be taking real measures to ensure there is action on tackling tax avoidance and the secrecy which goes hand in hand with routing money through off shore shell companies and the like.

H,B&B have an SE22 postcode (or at least they do according to their website). But they're definitely right on the border with Peckham.

Quorn Road is free parking and usually has lot's of space, or you may be able to park on St Francis Road.

I agree. I think it's positive that the local police are trying to reach out to the wider community.

There are loads of different ways you could carve it up, but I am with Louisa on just using the postcodes - SE21 (Dulwich Village / West Dulwich); SE22 (East Dulwich); SE15 (Pecknam). Simple. I notice Hops, Burns and Black sometimes identify as being in Peckham which is interesting.