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I've never found it particularly difficult to cross there I have to say. I think it would work as a Hotel, with a pub / restaurant attached.

it's a good location, next to the entrance to the woods and Dulwich Park. It's got a huge garden which could be a big draw for famillies. it would make a good hotel / pub restaurant. Just because people didn't like it when it was a Harvester, doesn't mean it's not viable.

I guess they've got to draw the line somewhere - they're pretty much on the border of three different postcode areas

The Dulwich Estate behaves like a bunch of feudal lords. The fact that they are recognised as a charity is ridiculous

It seems unlikely from the accounts I've heard that the motivation behind the attack was the individual's race. I suspect that they were abused because Clarkson didn't approve of the dinner he was served. It's shameful and pathetic behaviour, but a racially motivated attack?

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A lot of the universal benefits should go, it just doesn't make sense to take taxes off people, spend money on administering them and then give the same people some of it back. Hugely inefficient and pointless. Pensioners can't be ring fences for ever all though I do see the arguenent for protecting them. Tax credits are clearly crazy and I support what the Tories are trying to do by removing / reducing them. The problem how they're going about it. I personally do think that taxes need to be increased if we are to have decent health and education provision. The fairest way to do that is through a progressive tax, so that means raising I one tax (although I would possibly change some of the bands to ensure it was more progressive/fair).

If it's a real tree, it'll be dead by Christmas.

A letter like that from the prime minster is really revealing and should be big news. Instead we get ridiculous analysis of how deeply the leader of the opposition bows.

Loz, its really not a party political point. The medias treatment of Corbyn is getting absurd for all to see, regardless of what one might think of the man.

Really sorry to hear about this, you must be livid. How come the thieves didn't set of the alarm, I would have thought the movement would have triggered it?

Was it a roll up? Maybe it looked a lot like one of those jazz fags the young beatniks are into.

@DaveR - sure, that's of course true, but regardless of what one might think of Corbyn, some sections of the media seem to have completely jumped the shark. I heard someone on LBC calling for Corbyn to the charged with treason in all seriousness. It's quite breathtaking.

The media's treatment of Corbyn has got absolutely surreal. I thought this article sums it up quite well http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saying-that-jeremy-corbyn-didn-t-bow-during-remembrance-sunday-isn-t-lying-it-s-even-worse-than-that-a6727106.html

I'm glad there is another thread on this. The last one tailed off so quickly, it just left so much to still be discussed.

Travel in SE London has become ridiculously difficult of late, especially at weekends. The roads are being dug up everywhere, there's no tube and the trains rarely seem to be running. It's totally unacceptable. Must admit, it's the one thing which makes me consider moving out of the area.

I honestly have no idea who anonymous are (they are after all, anonymous). I imagine it's a fairly disparate, diverse and rag bag group though.

'bout now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This quote from a masked protester sums it up > nicely (from the BBC). > > "it would've been a revolution, but I think the > weather's put everyone off, to be honest." Surely that was meant to be a joke / tongue in cheek, no?

The way that media and entertainment has changed has had a big impact on shared experience, values - regardless of your background. Two people could be born in the same street and have little in the way of a common culture. We all used to watch one of maybe two or three TV programmes which were on offer of a Saturday night for example. We all used to know who was no.1 in the music charts. There was only so much cultural product available and we all to a greater or lesser extent, shared similar reference points. Music, TV, film, Literature and art are now endlessly available and from all over the world. There is so much information, entertainment and culture from which you can chose.

Good news

it all sounds a little unhealthy to me.

To answer the subject of the post. There are clearly things which genuinely offend us, often quite rightly - but there has definitely been an increase in knee-jerk 'outrage', encouraged by angry mob social media.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd have the lot down, deep cleaned and rebuilt > with some decent shops again and nice open > pleasant space for everyone to enjoy. > > Louisa. Gentrifier

originally the plan was to demolish the shopping centre and extend a pedestrianised Walworth Road across the plot to the northern roundabout, which would be transformed into a public square. In this context (a pedestrianised shopping street and public square) the whole thing made sense. Unfortunately the shopping centre now stays and the peninsula will be little more than a windswept smog filled non-place.