Earl Aelfheah

Bromley seems fine to me. don't really know Croydon, but driving through it feels like a strange shrunken city (with lots of tall, shiny buildings that on inspection aren't really very tall or shiny). The perspective seems all a bit off. Seabag makes it sound Quite an interesting place, I wonder whether he works for the West Croydon Tourist board.

Sounds good. I'm looking forward to trying it. May pop in for a swift one tonight.

A pretty balanced article on the Europe question: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/26/irrational-unhinged-gullible-many-who-want-britain-out-of-europe-deserve-listened

A lot of the people who wax lyrical about Inside 72 would, if it were opened today, call it Hipster B*llsh*t imo. The primary difference being their age and current lack of fun / affectation / pretentiousness (delete as you see fit).

Edt was busy. Everywhere else empty

As an aside, I went out Tuesday night in Peckham and there were loads of people out and about. Walked back down Lordship Lane and the place was empty. It was like a ghost town. I wonder whether there is an element of 'cannibalisation' going on, with the rise of Peckham eating into ED's businesses?

It's opening at 7 tonight apparently.

I actually liked the sign. I dunno, get the impression that whatever the did, people would be moaning. Clearly it won't be to everyone's taste, but at least it's somewhere new and it's good to see pubs opening up instead of being turned into flats for once.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rahrahrah Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > The guy also lost his job as a result of this > > > > Did he? > > I think he still has a job at the BBC in a > different/better role. fair enough, I assumed as they'd cancelled the programme that he'd lost his job.

Bring on the moan :-( Personally, i'm glad to see new businesses investing in Peckham, bringing some money in to the area and employing local people.

The guy also lost his job as a result of this, received death threats and may potentially have suffered damage to his reputation in a pretty 'closed shop' type of industry.

used to be discount decorating possibly

sheff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's fanciful to believe that only 200k > jobs would be at risk. > The vast majority of GDP is from SMEs. > SMEs historically trade at a net surplus for > exports. > They are large employers. > > The company I used to run imported circa 15m from > Chima and Europe every year. Lots from Italy and > Germany. > We then exported 70% of all our sales outside the > UK. 30% back to EU. > > The distribution centre we ran just outside > Birmingham employed lots of people. > > Leaving the EU would mean all the goods imported > from the EU would attract duty at border, unless a > convoluted bonded warehouse could be set up. > Youd then pay duty to export to the EU again (it > was a luxury brand so we cover it for the > consumer). > > There is no doubt 70% of that distribution centre > would be moved to a facility on the outskirts of A > major French or German city. It would cut dead > money out of the supply chain. > > All that UK derived taxable profit flowing to the > EU Spot on.

Sazzle30 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > John the Unicorn opens on Saturday I think it opens today actually.

Your issue has been caused by a CPZ displacing traffic into neighbouring streets. If it's extended it will push the problem on again. At some point someone has to actually object to the cause rather than the symptoms, end the protectionism and campaign not for perpetual expansion, but for a roll back of these ridiculous schemes.

I don't think it's unreasonable for people to drop off or pick up there personally.

People's republic of Dulwich perhaps?

Yes

I think London should vote for independence from the rest of the UK

Brussels. Not just for Christmas.

Eh?

People have an opinion. What's your point, that no one can know the future? Well sure.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > the UK is Germany's 3rd biggest market - > Switzerland its 9th ad Norway its 29th > > The UK is also France's 3rd biggest market - total > exports to the UK E39bn compared to E15bn for > Switzerland and E6.3bn for Norway..... > > So I think we are (a more important player) Cameron has made a concerted effort to renegotiate terms. I don't know why people think that once we have played our only real card (flouncing off), we're likely to be able to come shuffling back with our tail between our legs and at that point extract significant concessions.

I was waiting for the punch line, but there wasn't one.

@artful - of course no one can claim to know exactly what will happen if we leave the EU, but that's not to say that certain scenarios are not far more likely than others. IMO, the best case scenario if we leave, will be that we continue to trade with europe on roughly the same terms as we do now. This of course will have achieved effectively nothing, except that we will be subject to, rather than party to the future rules and regulations imposed on nations trading within the common market. Worst case scenario is that we'll continue trading, but on significantly worse terms, also with the loss of influence. The idea that there is a third, more likely scenario, in which all member states quickly and happily agree to offering the UK preferential terms, providing us an advantage to all other members, shortly after we have shown them the finger, seems to me incredibly naive.