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The most sensible and appropriate words on this subject are from Helen Hayes: My thoughts with the victim receiving treatment in hospital & all who witnessed this appalling, traumatic violence. If you have any information please contact the police or Crimestoppers

Touche DR AM, did you get out of bed the wrong side?

Government needs to be voted out because of this. But it wont as we all know - ballot box no longer reflects lack of integrity of some MPs - the usual suspects. By no means all as most want what is best for their country. Perhaps Starmer may get some success from this (I'm whispering)

Do come and join the other thread DR, I was never expecting it to stick to cases for the ESL. Looking at some of the debate on this thread maybe shows why ESR is the logical conclusion. If football was the 'true working class' game as it perhaps was 60 years ago then most of the discussion would be about Palace and Millwall. Just take a look at kids training on the Rye on a Saturday and most will not be wearing local colours. And perhaps you have said as I have, just pee off to the ESL big 4 (now big 6); perhaps they heard me. Even when I was growing up there was so much bias towards the 'big' clubs - not counting Chels and Man City in those days.

This is supposed to be about the case for. Here is the case for: 1. Football is now sold as a lifestyle, in particular for those with money to spend 2. It will be a further boost for on line betting 3. It's a global business, and will follow the money 4. Many in this country will still buy into it, come what may Not that I am happy but always good to have a balanced argument. On a similar subject strong arguments were put forward when test match cricket was taken off the list of crown jewels, ie home tests on terrestrial. I thought the opposite, wrote to government, and was proved correct.

Has anyone spoken to the cafe management, I expect that they would welcome some feedback.

Well it's been coming for some time. I'd like to hear from those with a case for it. A good case, rather than it is just getting return on your investment. I'll be with many here and be watching Peckham Town when the fans are allowed back in. The word of the day is ?ingordigiousness?: extreme greed; an insatiable desire for wealth at any cost. My case for it is below:

1-4-the Lounge I expect. Unless Phil kept a bachelor pad in SE22 - I doubt it. Lots of chat on the lounge already, particularly with the 'excessive' BBC coverage. A bit more sensible for the funeral - I never watch any of these things and would be happier without a constitutional monarchy. But I do catch up on the news and it seemed to be a nice, relatively modest ceremony. I've been to a couple of funerals during lockdown, and similarly they were well held, respectful and modest ceremonies. A friend was speaking to me recently and told me her father died of old age. What a lovely term. I didn't shed a tear and more likely to do this watching some long lost families programme on the box, or tears of relief when Dominique Renelleau escaped the serial killer Charles Sobhraj (aka the Serpent) https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/the-serpent-dominique-escape/ The one exception was Thatch's state funeral where I had a total new's blackout. I had a quiet tear when John Smith died.

There is a bigger picture here. We need more affordable/social housing. Where do we put it, particularly if there are not enough brown field sites. This is not to say that Brenchley Gardens is the right or wrong place. It would be good to get other views. I posted a thread some time ago about the continual development of private houses. It just seems wrong that some cannot afford bricks and a roof, yet others are extending left, right and centre. I understand that low interest rates and poor return on many forms of investment make housing even more attractive. But still feels rather perverse.

here's the podcast from today - the EOTB question was asked precisely the time you posted https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dw2f3

A really nice podcast here - Ed Milliband's Reasons to be Cheerful - on Your Bike, with the academic Rachel Aldred and the Guardian's Peter Walker. https://podtail.com/en/podcast/reasons-to-be-cheerful-with-ed-miliband-and-geoff-/84-on-your-bike/

My experiences are very different. I've had to be even more careful about pedestrians walking across me as I am cycling. Often as they are looking at their phone, texting, and just not looking when they cross the road. I've never ran into anyone because I was at fault. Government stats show that around 100 times more pedestrian deaths are caused by drivers than cyclists, and about 50 time more reported collisions with pedestrians. Sadly many pedestrians are killed each year due to cars mounting the pavement so I wonder if some collisions between bikes and pedestrians are due to pedestrians not using the pavement due to fear of cars mounting this. Sorry that you have had close misses. Some signage would help, as you get on the Surrey canal, ie warning cyclists to respect pedestrians. Not sure what you do on Rye Lane, as this is a bit of dog's dinner. In the not too distant future it will be electric scooters and the like where the collisions with both pedestrians and bike will soar.

Fan of Ken Bruce DR? One of the questions today on Pop Master.

Anyone seeing the Ken Loach film Sorry we Missed You would get an insight into the life of a delivery driver. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/03/sorry-we-missed-you-review-ken-loach

Passed a poster earlier about potential redevelopment and found this article: https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/exclusive-campaign-against-infilling-gains-momentum-as-brenchley-gardens-and-bells-gardens-estates-protest-against-plans/ Interested in views - pro and con. We need more homes.

Hi Nigello, cheers for a constructive post. The Forest Hill Society do a lot of planting in SE23. Does the Dulwich Society or other community group do similar over the border? https://www.foresthillsociety.com/2021/04/town-centre-planting.html

Please report to the police, even if the party that was harassed doesn't, it helps build intelligence.

Yes, and I but all lost my temper with my Aunt's carer who refuses to have the jab, and her neighbour who also cares being vaccine hesitant. It's difficult to debate as the carer in particular had all the answers why the pandemic has all been 'over exaggerated'. Saying in a frustrated and loud voice that well over 130,000 people had died, many preventable, and that she was being selfish, and that I wasn't bothered about her health but those that she could infect, didn't change her mind one bit. Adding that I hate this government, particularly the PM, but that they were right on the mass vac, and hard lockdowns, didn't help either. A bit like debating with some people on this website (oh dear, a bit below the belt)

Still thinking of behaviour change and the fine balance between a message that uses humour to encourage people to be good citizens, vs being interpreted as incendiary, aggressive/passive aggressive. Too many of the posts on this site can be read as passive aggressive, sneery or sarcastic, case in point is the title of this thread which may be intended to be funny in an American style but comes across as negative. I'd have titled it - how do we reduce littering, or maybe 'those that don't litter are simply the best, and better than all the rest'. Obviously when I am being facetious I am just being funny, not trolling or anything like this. I'm just a soul whose intentions are good, Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

The Kent approach is classic nudge. I quite liked the tosser approach but I expect that many wont see the funny side (including the target audience) - I think it is supposed to be humorous rather than negative. But this approach is used in advertising eg mobile envy (you don't want to be seen as the sad person without Kevin Bacon's EE deal). Interesting article from Beeb about tossers, looks at arguments from both side and according to this the strap line was first used in Australia in 2008 although like 'thong' it may have a different meaning there. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-31699957 Ah it does have the same meaning https://outbackdictionary.com/tosser/#:~:text=A%20useless%20idiot%3B%20a%20wanker,What%20a%20tosser.

New York, an interesting example. Giuliani was lauded for his zero tolerance policy that led to the city becoming much safer. Yet what to we think of him now? Sweating, hair dye running and Trump's failed (and imaginary)legal challenges.

redpost Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- LTN's and the consultation process have been all over the TV news, print news, leaflets, shop windows, internets etc for the past year Just to make sure everyone is aware of the process, perhaps southwark should pay for a gorillagram to personally deliver the leaflet to every household in south London? Of course, you would then be the first to moan about the cost of consultation ------------------------------------------------- I had a nice cycle today which included the lovely hills of Lewisham. This takes me around the back of Hither Green, and an opportunity to check out the LTN there. Signage all seems good to me - not sure if this is just because I know it is there and I have a good vantage point. I've been aware of both Southwark and Lewisham LTNs from the media coverage so still struggle to understand why so many people are getting tickets. Well one of us is going to challenge their FPNs in court so we shall see if this is foolish, revolutionary or an opportunity for some martyrdom. I'm looking for a new career so a gorrillagram could suit me fine. I once shared a house with a Champagne Charlie (gent who dressed in a dinner suit would provide champagne at birthday parties - he kept his clothes on). That's another story for another thread, but expect would make more interesting reading than this one.

When I gave an example of what the Romans did for us I purposely used Livingstone. This thread very much seems to be aimed at some people's displeasure about Khan. I could go through each of them and list good and bad points - Livingstone bike hire, Oyster, congestion charge, London 2012 good, bendy buses bad and could be perceived as a crook/zero humility. Johnson - ULEZ, investment in low emission buses good, removal of Western congestion charge, new routemaster, garden bridge and Boris island airport (three vanity projects) bad. And a (allegedly) megalomaniac/liar. Khan - hmmm, slightly more exciting than Starmer, but hardly a character. Yet he will get a landslide so either people aren't bothered, there is no viable alternative, and/or he'd done OK. Local government will always be clunky/dysfunctional. LAs are often poorly joined up, or do not seem to follow/share best practice. I worked with Oxford once where there seemed to be a massive rift between Oxford City Council and the County Council, Labour vs Tories. Interestingly Oxford all but banned cars 30 years ago and if you visit now you wonder how they could have ever been allowed in the first place. But the uproar at the time about pushing traffic out to the ring road and beyond it's borders. We lost our regional government structure under the coalition government - an unnecessary level of bureaucracy? Yet Covid showed how valuable that tier could be. And other metropolitan areas want to do what London does in having policies and systems that go beyond individual boroughs particularly on transport. As said it's clunky, I am sure could be made to work better, but it ain't going to go away and you are going to have four more years of Khan.

Well we voted to have a Mayor so nothing is going to change, you can put up or shut up! What did the Romans/Mayor do for us. Oh contactless travel? Integrated local transport? Reduced fares?? 2012 Olympics where we were the envy of the globe, maxed out on national happiness and the last time the country was united???