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I wonder if the new buses will have the same fault. Imagine if it was full.

There is a burnt out double decker bus on Forest Hill Rd by Brenchley Gardens. The Police and Fire Services are there. The road is blocked and traffic diverted up Dunstans. Anyone know what happened? Looks like a pretty bad fire.

People's hair will be longer.

and Edinburgh, Birmingham, Bristol, Milan, Barcelona...

And yes people should think of the children when it comes to road safety.

Well Peckham Rye/Forest Hill Rd is only a B route, it has a park, lots of residential properties/shops, two schools and lots of young pedestrians crossing and cyclists. It would fall in the former category for me. Red Routes, like you say, are a different case.

Yes first mate that is a good point. It is not clear what Southwark's expected revenue and profit from the plans for the two cemeteries are but they have said publicly they use the money to subsidise other services. If they are making money from grieving families and the burial service - then I think public should know about it, how much it is and where the money is going. Another issue is the Area Z was traditionally used for common/public burials - the new plans seem to suggest the area will be used for private burials - effectively meaning the area will be sold off to private hands plot by plot.

> Exactly - there are a significantly large number > of private schools in the area offering nursery > and primary schooling I somehow doubt 25% of Southwark primary school children are privately educated. I suppose there could a net outflow to schools in other boroughs but that should work both ways.

Yes I imagine it is more likely to be telematic boxes than wide spread cameras. Some insurers won't cover young drivers without them already. They could even tie it in with road pricing and traffic monitoring and possibly even sat-nav route optimization. Slightly big brother, but other transport is monitored in a similar way for both safety and efficiency reasons.

Great turn out on Sunday - around 300. Thanks to everyone for coming. http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/100-acre-wood-walk/4588513561

Reminder the walk is today (Sunday) meeting the gates at 10:30 am not Saturday at 11 as reported by Southwark News. http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/walk

Reminder this is today (Sunday) at 10:30 not Saturday at 11 as reported by Southwark News.

I don't know if the Met have a official tolerance for speed limits but I have read most police forces set it at 10% + 2. So anyone is unlikely to get a ticket if they are going under 24 - but that is going it some on a bike. When Bradley Wiggin's won the Tour de France he only averaged 24.8 mph. A cyclist going that fast should slow down imo.

All bat species are protected. https://www.gov.uk/bats-protection-surveys-and-licences

Walk to Save Southwark Woods - 8th March The 100 Acre Wood Walk A Teddy Bears? Moveable Feast Sunday 8th March 11AM - 1PM Meet 10.30AM Camberwell Old Cemetery Gates Forest Hill Road SE22 0SQ Walk to Save Southwark Woods! The council want to put 6,000 burial plots in our magical Southwark Woods at Camberwell Old and New Cemeteries. Residents have a better idea - a100 Acre Wood for the well-being of the local community and South London. Bring balloons, cake, banners, flags, instruments, dogs on leashes, wellies... and your teddy bears! Route Through Camberwell Old Cemetery woods Up and over One Tree Hill Through Camberwell New Cemetery Over to Nunhead Cemetery Finish at the Ivy House for 1PM Walk to save the magical nature of our 100 Acre Wood! http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/walk

The 100 Acre Wood Walk A Teddy Bears? Moveable Feast Sunday 8th March 11AM - 1PM Meet 10.30AM Camberwell Old Cemetery Gates Forest Hill Road SE22 0SQ Walk to Save Southwark Woods! The council want to put 6,000 burial plots in our magical Southwark Woods at Camberwell Old and New Cemeteries. Residents have a better idea - a100 Acre Wood for the well-being of the local community and South London. Bring balloons, cake, banners, flags, instruments, dogs on leashes, wellies... and your teddy bears! Route Through Camberwell Old Cemetery woods Up and over One Tree Hill Through Camberwell New Cemetery Over to Nunhead Cemetery Finish at the Ivy House for 1PM Walk to save the magical nature of our 100 Acre Wood! http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/walk

The 100 Acre Wood Walk A Teddy Bears? Moveable Feast Sunday 8th March 11AM - 1PM Meet 10.30AM Camberwell Old Cemetery Gates Forest Hill Road SE22 0SQ Walk to Save Southwark Woods! The council want to put 6,000 burial plots in our magical Southwark Woods at Camberwell Old and New Cemeteries. Residents have a better idea - a 100 Acre Wood for the well-being of the local community and South London. Bring balloons, cake, banners, flags, instruments, dogs on leashes, wellies... and your teddy bears! Route Through Camberwell Old Cemetery woods Up and over One Tree Hill Through Camberwell New Cemetery Over to Nunhead Cemetery Finish at the Ivy House for 1PM Walk to save the magical nature of our 100 Acre Wood! http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/walk

London Live have done a piece on petition. http://www.londonlive.co.uk/news/2015-02-26/petition-to-save-a-south-london-gets-3-000-signitures

It has been covered by the BBC and the Evening Standard http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31575244 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/scheme-to-create-thousands-of-new-graves-will-ruin-urban-woodland-10063964.html

What were these youths doing exactly?

I don't think anyone is saying people don?t have the right to be buried or buried with their loved ones. The question is whether the council should guarantee that they can provide this service indefinitely inside an urban borough and whether it should be at the cost of valuable woodland green spaces and wildlife reserves. Many other boroughs in London do not provide this service and there is no major public outcry about it. I don?t think it is unreasonable to expect people who live in over crowded cities to not be able to bury their dead near by, inside the city. Indeed when the cemeteries themselves were set up they where right on the edge of the city and that was a time when 100% of people had burials. That is no longer the case now and roughly only 25% want burials and these area are inside a polluted city. The importance of utility for other reasons has changed a great deal. There is a very strong case for re-evaluating how these important green spaces are used. It seems to me very unfair that only the needs of 25% population are taken into consideration when planning what to do with these areas. As it stands there is some scope for increased burials in both cemeteries with both new areas and reuse of old plots without destroying the woodlands in areas D1 and Z. I would like to the council to put the plans for those areas in particular on hold until there is a full public consultation on the matter. At the very least consider them for alternatives to the very destructive high concentration full grave stone burials plots proposed, for more environmentally friendly options such woodland burials or small memorial plaques or ash scattering areas. D1 especially is to me an area of outstanding natural beauty and part of the woodland on One Tree Hill. Surely an alternative to destroying it would be preferable. Ultimately these are public places, it should be up to the public to decide how they are used.

Update from Save Southwark Woods for those not following on Facebook/Twitter. At the Public Meeting, the council gave residents until Friday 20th February, a typically short period to make comments on their brutal, destructive and short-term proposals. Here are the people to write to, it can be in one email/letter and you can be as specific or as general as you wish, but has to be with them by Friday 20th. The people to write to are: Officers: [email protected] Simon Bevan, Head of Planning [email protected] Rebecca Towers, Parks & Open Spaces Manager [email protected] Des Waters, Head of Public Realm Copy in Councillors: [email protected] Cllr Darren Merrill [email protected] Clly Victoria Mills [email protected] Cllr Renata Hamvas And please copy us in too! [email protected] The main points Save Southwark Woods is calling for are: ? For these woodlands, wooded areas and greenspaces to be protected and managed for nature and people - no new burials ? For both cemeteries to be declared the Local Nature Reserves they really are, and managed as Nunhead Cemetery is ? That years of illegal fly tipping under the council?s watch should not be the excuse used for a massive redevelopment not just of Area Z but across the whole of these magical woods, with sanitised landscaping and THOUSANDS of burial plots instead of woodland at the end of it ? A full Public Consultation 2015/2016 on these brutal and destructive proposals, denied to the public with a toothless public information exercise instead If you wish to express support for the SSW campaign too, that would be great but the main thing is to make your comments known. The council has tried to get this through without anyone realising what was happening. Tell them they can't pull the wool over residents' eyes like this.

Wow they really are planning on getting children from miles away. That is a really long trip for KS1 age. This makes no sense to me.

Lets all agree that neither kids on scooters or dogs or bikes or people in general in park are a serious menace or safety problem but a friendly smile or tinkle on the bell where appropriate by all is appreciated.

> > That's not true is it! I think it's more like one > a year nationally. It is not even that. There is roughly one death every two years in a pedestrian/cyclist collisions. There are roughly two deaths every year from dog attacks.