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Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The sound of aircraft will be enhanced/ reduced > depending on the local atmospheric conditions, so > maybe its the weather Absolutely - when it's warm we open the windows. There are fewer complaints in winter.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely it's a waste having cheap supermarkets when > people can buy takeout all the time? > > That was the problem with the Irish. No famine. > Just a potato blight. They were just picky eaters. > Could afford a ticket to america tho innit? > Bloody whingers > > More seriously. A lot of people just don't want a > smartphone. A lot of people (and people who use > buses to boot) wouldn't know where to begin with a > smartphone. But look at a screen at a bus stop? > Yeah, that's doable (admittedly expensive mind) It would be great to put digital displays in all London's bus stops or even all the UK's bus stops, and it might even boost the economy by making transport more efficient - but I thought money was tight. We need to save all that precious tax revenue so we can keep bailing out our dysfunctional banks.

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When this is fully live, tested and stable it > should mean its possible for public indicator > boards could be added to bus stops without going > via TfL hugely bloated excessively costly official > countdown programme for them. I live in hope. > Every bus stop should have an indicator board. Surely it's a waste of public funds installing all that hardware and running/maintaining it when so many people have smartphones anyway?

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you see any sloes let me know where! There are blackthorn bushes on top of One Tree Hill, right next to the viewing platform. The unpicked sloes tend to be out of reach - you have to bend over the stems to get at them.

It depends where in ED you live. If you're near ED station, London Bridge is easiest. If you're near Forest Hill or Honor Oak, East Croydon is easier and cheaper.

A shed in the front garden would be OK if it contains a ground anchor that bikes can be locked to securely. Ground anchors can be as cheap as ?20 but you may need to pour concrete into a hole to create a solid fixing point.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I came across this almost by accident.. > > The figures are specific to SE22 not Southwark in > General. No, the figures apply to the whole of Southwark. Try putting in SE15 and you'll get the same figures (see below). East Dulwich and Dulwich probably have a lower rate of crime than the rest of Southwark as the residents are wealthier. [pre]Crime in SE15 (Southwark) Click here to share your opinions on crime in SE15 (Southwark) Ranking 366 out of 373 districts. Southwark Greater London National Violence 33.00 25.81 16.20 Sexual Offence 1.00 1.29 0.98 Robbery 8.00 4.77 0.99 Burglary 10.00 7.71 4.21 Theft of Motor 5.00 4.58 2.68 Theft from Motor 12.00 11.65 6.88[/pre]

Station was open. Might be worth changing the title of this thread as it's a bit misleading to people planning to use the station..

Is the station closed again today?

The walking routes option on Google Maps is quite handy for planning bike routes. For SE22 to Oxford Circus you can avoid both Vauxhall and E&C roudabouts with this route. If you use the walking option remember to zoom in and check for grey one-way arrows and adjust accordingly (hence the white pins). http://i55.tinypic.com/29amvs.jpg If you want to avoid any main roads, just drag the route off them and see what alternatives pop up.

Fabricio the Guido Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have some pitchforks if anyone is interested. haha! Probably no need though - I don't think anyone with serious intentions to take on hoodies would be stupid enough to discuss their intentions on this forum as the police would be able to identify them immediately if they seriously injured anyone. The tough guys on EDF are all mouth and no trousers.

another one from the Forbes article: "If you?re down for making money, we?re about to go hard in east london tonight, yes tonight!! I don?t care what ends you?re from, we?re personally inviting you to come and get it in. Police have taken the piss for too long and to be honest I don?t know why its taken so long for us make this happen. We need a minimum of 200 hungry people. We?re not broke, but who says no to free stuff. Doesn?t matter if the police arrive cos we?ll just chase dem out because as you?ve seen on the news, they are NOT ON DIS TING. Everyone meet at 7 at stratford park and let?s get rich."

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/parmyolson/files/2011/08/BlackBerry-Looting-message.jpg http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2011/08/09/blackberrys-rim-helps-police-trace-london-rioters/

The Blackberry Riots: http://www.economist.com/node/21525976

Twirly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree that the turn left section could do with > extending a bit. I normally go up the main lane > and try to cross over into the left hand bit on > the dotted lines, but often it has traffic in it > (get a couple of buses there, and you can't get > into it at all after the solid white line ends), > in which case I've crossed over the solid white > line a bit early (never shoot up the whole length > of the bus lane though). I guess I shouldn't even > be doing that - am just concious of the traffic > behind me, and trying to get out of it's way so it > can get through the lights before they change > again. Exactly. If there are two buses waiting at the lights, you can't get in the lane and have to either hold up the traffic when the lights turn green or crash into the buses. It's all the more dangerous because cars waiting behind the buses can't see your indicator. Equivalent situation where ED Road meets Peckham Rye gives you much more room to get into the left lane from as early as Fenwick Road.

Marcus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In which part of my post do you see "...rage, > hatred and vengeful emotions"? I'm not feeling any > of these. Did you read my post or will you just > brand anyone advocating some kind of community > action as a violent extremist, hell bent on bloody > retribution? > > I think the whole situation is rather tragic - for > the victims and also for the young, mindless, > rioters and their depressing lives. > > I hope you don't one day find yourself the victim > of a crime - as people file past you, pretending > not to notice. Yes I read your post. I found it sarcastic and a bit rude actually. Hey ho. My post wasn't really directed at you personally. The point was a general one intended for all the people who've been frothing at the mouth calling for vigilante action in East Dulwich. I think it's mainly a knee-jerk reaction inspired by righteous anger. Understandable, but stupid.

Marcus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > benmorg Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Marcus Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I don't see the OP making any mention of > > baseball > > > bats, zero tolerance, aggression, racial > > > confrontation etc... > > > > The OP suggests doing what N London's Turkish > > community did - they used baseball bats. > > I doubt that in the cold light of day, they deeply > regret not allowing their shops, and the means by > which they earn money to feed their families, to > be looted and vandalised. > > Had you owned a shop in the area, it would have > been destroyed and your life torn apart (as would > mine), but at least we would be secure in the > knowledge that we had made the right decision... > > Standing in the street with a baseball bat > defending Foxtons against an armed, frenzied mob, > is not an option that I find particularly > attractive. Determined, community presence as a > robust deterrent does not have to take the form of > an aggressive lynch mob. Better left to the > police. But if there are no Police then what? Just > hope that it happens to someone else. We were failed by the police on Monday, for various reasons. I believe that has now been put right. I don't think vigilante gangs are necessary, and as we're already seeing on the news, they can very easily make things worse. It's important not to let rage, hatred and vengeful emotions get in the way of level-headed thinking. At the moment, there are far too many emotions flying round, even on this forum, and people are thinking with their guts rather than their brains. Let's hope for a few more days of calm, less of the knee-jerk anger, and a better equipped and prepared police force.

Sazzle30 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > From Reading the forum in past few months I get > the feeling that those who frequent the forum ( > yes generalising before I start a rant) are of the > left - however as soon as anything happens that > may reduce house prices, you all get a bit NIMBY > and DaIly Mail. Shame really ED is a nice place > but some people make it so intolerent. > From a self confessing non recycling Tory (who > although 'educated' can't spell - before you all > start on that too) Intolerant, not intolerent.

Marcus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't see the OP making any mention of baseball > bats, zero tolerance, aggression, racial > confrontation etc... The OP suggests doing what N London's Turkish community did - they used baseball bats.

Lots of sensible people on the news calling for calm. A bit more calm on this forum wouldn't go amiss either.

karter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dh is a sensible guy and means well. I was out > with another friend the other night looking out > and helping if needed. Doing nothing is not an > option. Setting up a lookout network is another > good idea. Fair enough. Sky news currently reporting riots in Eltham caused by vigilantes.

Damian H Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I meanif you want something guaranteed risk free, > no-one can give you that. The risk of no action > is that people's properties could be burn down > with people inside. Why are you so keen to get fighting?

Damian H Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > benmorg Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Damian H Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > benmorg Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > Vigilantism going horribly wrong for the > > Asian > > > > communities in Birmingham according to > > Channel > > > 4 > > > > News. > > > > In what way? > > > > Three killed. > > > > Also, one unidentified man brain damaged in > Ealing > > trying to take on the hoodies. > > > Let's look at those. One was someone drivng a car > into three people. Could happen in a road > accident. > > The brain damaged guy went up to a bunch of youths > lighting a bin on his own - not smart. The car was driven into them deliberately. As I said earlier, things don't necessarily play out in the way you might like to imagine.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14472484

Scotland Yard now advising people not to engage in vigilante action.