Well said miga. There were some horrid looking estates (Haygate I'm looking at you), but equally there was no need to knock it down, Southwark could have updated it for less money than they've had to spend on the shambolic arrangements with Lend Lease. But at the end of the day it was unsightly, and knocking it down gave them the perfect chance rid the borough of those unsightly residents. Personally I hate the Barbican, but I know poeple that think it's wonderful. Different folks and all that. But in terms of interior, give me a large open spacious flat over a pokey victorian or 1930s house any day. I used to think having a garden was important to me, but had one for 5 years until last Feb, rarely used it, and haven't missed it at all except for no birthday BBQ.