StraferJack

if the ads are too distracting/spoiling the mood, you can always gaze upon Londis or Iceland instead, from exactly the same seat and with minimal effort Aesthetic beauty restored - ahh... More seriously, I generally don't love advertising in public spaces, and most of the examples on the wall are hideous. However, it is on a very unlovely wall and I can't say, in all honesty, it makes that corner look worse

It's pretty clear cut - if it proves to be true he (like Suarez) should have the book thrown at him. If it happened, it isn't "causal" racism, it's absolutely racism But as allegations go it's pretty big, so needs more than partial & disputed evidence. Even with evidence the FA is more than capable of sweeping it under the carpet, which is why problems like this persist unfortunately but the alternative is free-for-all where anyone with a grudge can farme anyone else Otta is giving Terry the benefit of the doubt personally, and legally I would say that has to be the case. But if you were to ask me HOW surprised I would be should it be proven....

Terry's defence has a ring of plausibility tho ""I'm disappointed that people have leapt to the wrong conclusions about the context of what I was seen to be saying to Anton Ferdinand. "I thought Anton was accusing me of using a racist slur against him. I responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term. I would never say such a thing and I'm saddened that people would think so" so if you see him say it, it's supposedly repeating what Ferdinand said to him. And I REALLY don't like Terry....

agreed with everything there Otta Too early to say if Arsenal have turned a corner after the dismal start to the season but 6 wins out of last 7 isn?t bad. Let?s see how we deal with Chelsea next week tho

I'm aware of my massive over-simplifications btw I'm just responding to Huguenot's

oh, and lame gags I forgot about them

Gosh, Atila is back and I didn't even notice. the 8-2 gag is achingly tired I'll grant you, but please atila, spare us the "who is this Atila person" schtick. You've tried it before and it never works You always come back and post in the music and football threads pretty much exclusively You like phrase like "what goes around..." Just say it's you so we can all skip 3 pages of denial and counter-argument

I'd argue it's a bit more like the farmer saying : Farmer: "Try this, I've just grown it - it's lovely it is" Me: "What does it taste like?" Farmer: "chicken!" Me: "very funny, seriously what is it?" Farmer: "don't worry about it - it tastes better than dry old carrots anyway, so why not give it a go. No side effects, honest" Me: "I'm suspicious what if I don't want it?" Farmer: "well you'd be a fool. Everyone else is trying it and they feel better for it. Secondly if enough people don't try it, I've invested everything in it and I'll have to close down. or move abroad where people do want to try it. Go on - have some. Cheap too - I'm only charging 50p a slice" Me: "hmmm, go on then I'll have a bit" Barf Me: "oi you said no side effects!!!" Farmer: "oops. Sorry mate. BTW I need you to give me ?20. Lot's of people saying they are sick too so I need a lot of cash to make things better" Me: "oh do fuck off!" It doesn't mean I don't want farmers, just like saying something is wrong with the finance system doesn't mean I don't want banks You are also rewriting history to say governments shouldnt spend more than they have. never been true before and never will be true in future. If growth returned (and I'm not saying we should count on it) and the banking system hadn't imploded, the debt was planned for an serviceable. And in better shape in the UK compared to many decades previously If a small number of rich people have access to half of the economic cake, it might seem unfair but you can make the argument about the necessity of it, while the rest of us divide the other half of the cake But if that small number of rich people start saying half the cake isn't enough, they want 3/4 of the cake instead, then yeah people are going to get pissed off. And you and anyone else saying those people are just "jealous" is irritating beyond belief

As you were then H Everything is ok Cities across the globe holding protests Nothing to see here It's fine It will all work out just fine You can put over simplified words from some protestors into the whole and satisfy yourself they are Charlies It's fine I'm SO relieved.

Ah so despite me saying opposite you think I am arguing for the overthrow of capitalism? Gosh, I didn't know you paid so much attention You will find people at the sites arguing for just that. I'm not one of them. And my point is that to dismiss the whole thing as "arguing against capitalism" is smug and easy and wrong The canary in the coal mine isnt protesting about the mining industry. Just the lack of oxygen

"Such things are revolutions made of - teenagers milking at the teat of the taxpayer who decline to give their name. Is it really any surprise that he doesn't want to put the graft in to earn a living?" " Teenager in 'I don't have a plan but getting a job seems a bit like hard work' bombshell. " "twerps" "Yoof in 'I don't want to work for the Man' shocker. " "morons" "Scrote in 'the world owes me a living, doesn't mum put clean clothes in my chest of drawers' revelation. " Sorry H, you are right .On reflection, you have been admirably restrained. You have weighed up all the options and unlike the protestors have made a cogent, logical, watertight argument Economic think tanks globally wish you had accepted their offers, instead of ploughing your own furrow We are all losers in this

A million extra people unemployed. They all "gave up" work to piss around at tax payers expense did they? Really h? All those people did that. Just because it's easy. That life of paying the bills and knowing where meals come from. They all just said "fuck it?" did they? A lot of people reading this have lost their jobs recently or are close to doing so now. And you arrogantly call them wasters? That substantial intellect of yours needs a compass-reset

Look, in a crowd like that you will find endless cliched variants of exactly the type you highlight And their aim of carrying on until Christmas? Easily said in this weather but a few harsh weeks and they will be out of there But you are still childishly picking the worst examples to nullify any point. I hadn't realised everything was sorted and there is no need for people to protest Ooh hang on. Protest. Not so keen on that in Singapore are they

Hilarious. None of your stereotypes apply to the majority of people I've spoken to at st Paul's But I understand it's comforting for you to believe as much It's not some crusties in london. It really isn't. Have a look at the footage of police flaking into some benign women at wall st. Something somewhere is rattled. I'm not using the whole thing as an anti bank protest. Not solely anyway. It is what it is. A broad church ( ho ho ) saying "hang on a minute" It doesn't take staggering intellect to agree and say "something ain't right" but it does appear as if business as usual is the only way permitted Does that mean revolution is being called for? No it doesn't. But if there are people who can fix the whole mess, it time they showed it instead of "suffering" as much as the rest of us

To me, it seems obvious, too easy an smug to say "morons, inarticulate, same ole same ole" All might prove to be true of course. But look at them and the wider global protests. My prediction is a day will come when we look back and say "we could have done more than dismiss them as morons" It doesn't matter that you can't distill the "message" into a plan of action. A vague "this shit ain't working, sort it" is enough Or at least it is for most peoples bosses so why not the reverse?

Targeting st Paul's? Where did you get that from? Utilising st Paul's, and having st Paul's back them against the police last week would seem to be a minor coup Remember they are not alone. Inarticulate they may be but combined with the multiple protests globally? Something is happening. I don't know what yet, but only fools would look at the global picture and say it means nothing. It might achieve nothing, but that's not the same thing.

I know that to the outsider, or someone who might "dabble" in a little light research that the buggy/pram market is saturated with much the same product, with price differential sorting parents into different groups But zeban, as someone who thought well of you when you started posting on the forum you are letting yourself down badly here. If you are reading this section as part of academic research then judging by your posts so far, the results will be poor It is true that parents will end up buying lots of stuff they don't need - there is another thread live about such things at the moment. But a buggy is the thing you are going to see most of in the first 3 years of the child's life - forget status symbols, this thing has to work it's ass off and justify it's place. Doing a couple of test runs in pram shops is just not preperation We picked up a cheap buggy as well as an expensive one - something we can leave at grandparents, take to festivals and the like. Functionally the same - but I only have to spend two days with the cheap one and I am selling organs just to get back to the good one. The sheer effort and discomfort involved with the cheaper one is something I would not have believed prior to becoming a parent. So well-designed ergonimics costs money - who knew huh?

Not to me it doesn't (quite the opposite) but if I was a vegetarian I'd want to be sure so I was just giving a heads-up

It doesn't need an app for plenty of people to be yammering away or using their phones at bus-stops. They do it all the time But if you are worried you can do it before leaving home/work/wherever

It takes data from same place the physical bus stop counters do so it's as accurate as those (ie basically accurate-enough most of the time, with occassional buses dropping into black holes) As a 37 user, it's invaluable - "23 minutes to next one? Time for a pint first" And when it says 2 minutes left I leave the pub and the bus turns up. What's not to like (you don't need to buy the app - there is a website address, but that is a bit less manageable with favourites etc)

I'm not 100% convinced the cabbage dishes at Silk Road don't have SOME element of pig in them. That's just my impression, not an allegation btw - but it's worth checking with them Either way, it's fantastic stuff

it's a Father Ted-ism Katie all my family call each other Ted

I think "pretty dire" is harsh It frustrated whilst watching it, but I have to say it has stuck in my mind today. It definitely didn't fully succeed at what it tried to do, and I couldn't recommend it unreservedly - but it was better than "pretty dire"

I dont think preferring wine glasses is pretentious at all. I prefer wine glasses too But to start a thread, or complain that drinking tumblers just isn't acceptable? That takes things a bit further

As a landlord who charges just enough to cover the mortgage I can say the latter is definitely not the case. You might think I'm still an idiot tho'. I would argue that you are looking at too small a picture