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DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Apart from the usual suspects I'm happy to > 'support' any English team in Europe" > > Would the usual suspects include Man City, > Liverpool and Chelsea, maybe Arsenal? So you're > happy to support any English team you don't regard > as a rival. Big of you. Must be something in the water today. Football is built on and thrives on rivalries. For me a proper rivalry is historic and transcends league position, which is what you seem to be alluding to. Historically our main rivals are Liverpool, Leeds and Man City. These are the 'Usual Suspects' I was referring to. Even though I don't see Chelsea as a rival, in recent years they've become a deeply unlikeable club and set of fans per se, so currently I have no qualms about adding them to 'the list', and not supporting them in Europe either. I think a lot of non-Chelsea fans feel exactly the same...

I've just set up a Cheltenham league - EDF Betting Matters The pin is 8034739 To join in you just need to go to the website and choose a stable of 3 jockeys and 3 trainers, fill in your personal details and once accepted you can join a league. You can select up to 3 stables, I've only done one for now, will probably add others nearer the time... http://fantasyracing.telegraph.co.uk/cheltenham/?cachebuster=1362590277

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chill RD, I know you're sore, but this thread has > been pretty nice today, imagine if PD was here > today! I'm fine Ots. PD would get blanked...

'bout now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes RD you can. I support West Ham for my sins, as > you know. The Champions League is a club > competition and as far as I'm concerned has > nothing to do with nationality, its just a chance > for me to watch Football at the professed highest > level. Fair enough. I'm not bothered if people don't want to support Man Utd when we play in Europe, especially rival fans, I was just curious as to what your reasoning was, with you not being a traditional rival fan. Apart from the usual suspects I'm happy to 'support' any English team in Europe. I feel it's good for our game if our clubs do well in Europe...each to their own. > And I apologise for the mischief but in the grand > scheme of things it's only football innit. *Bill Shankly turns in his grave...* ETA: typo, got a sore head today...

'bout now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't support United and I don't support Madrid, > not that difficult to ascertain is it? Can I ascertain then that you would never support any English team in Europe apart from the team that you support? > And the Karma comment was a mischievous little > prod alluding to the seemingly endless stream of > teams claiming to have been victims of dodgy > refereeing at Old Trafford. > > But you knew that anyway. Actually I didn't, hence the question. Some would say your mischieviousness undermines your professed neutrality...

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What really matters is in the players' hearts. > What it means to represent the club. You singled out English clubs, does this also apply to Spanish, Italian etc clubs too? > But given your points about the changed world and > football's place in it, why then do you think it > right someone should support an English club over > a foreign one, it's kind of cake and eat it? I never said that. See earlier response to Otta's question...

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ian (Iain?), wasn't it? iaineasy... *Hugs*

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RD, were you honestly cheering Chelsea in kast > years final? Nope, and I could give you lots of reasons why I didn't. I wasn't saying it was wrong not to support a fellow English team, just asking 'bout now why he/she wasn't...

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's really my problem, they're not really > English teams in the true sense anymore, just > English brands. Likewise Real *spits*, and I'm a > bloody Madrile?o!!! What do you mean by 'true sense'...the number of English players? Surely football is just a reflection/extension of the world/society we now live in. Is England even English in the 'true sense' anymore?..

'bout now Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some might even call it Karma. > > ( spoken from the P.O.V of neutral tellybox > watcher) Karma for what exactly? Why were you not supporting a fellow English team in Europe?

Cuneyt of a referee...

No Rooney!..*Gulps* Maybe method in SAF's madness, Nani up against Arbeloa...

*Bob*, you do realise that the fishy smell emanating from your nether regions is nothing to do with the soup...

I heart SCSB79...C'mon you Reds!

Tuesday 5th March 2013 Borussia Dortmund 3 Shakhtar Donetsk 1 Man Utd 2 Real Madrid 2 Wednesday 6th March 2013 Juventus 3 Celtic 1 Paris SG 2 Valencia 0

Sainsbury's have a clothes recycling skip. Or, you could always start a revival of the grandad collar shirt, sulky pouty lips optional... http://static.fashionbeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/smithymain.jpg

No rest for the wicked, it's passport time again, tomorrow night is the third set of Champions League games. Latecomers still have a good chance to qualify for the knock-out stage... Tuesday 5th March 2013 Borussia Dortmund V Shakhtar Donetsk (agg 2-2) Man Utd V Real Madrid (agg 1-1) Wednesday 6th March 2013 Juventus V Celtic (agg 3-0) Paris SG V Valencia (agg 2-1)

Week 24 results. Lots of correct results this week... Mx - 7 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 10 pts ?? - 6 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 9 pts OT - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts RC - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts RD - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts MM - 7 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 7 pts AM - 6 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 6 pts DR - 6 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 6 pts LG - 6 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 6 pts SC - 6 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 6 pts JL - 5 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 5 pts EP - Played a Maxxi = 5 pts PD - Played a Maxxi = 5 pts

Oh yes :)

Come in Salsaboy, you're time is up...

I thought our ???? would've been largin' it on the terraces, not drooling in the posh seats...

If this snowballs, it could get messy... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/borrowing/mortgages/9900393/Rates-double-for-thousands-of-mortgage-customers.html

No value, but I fancy Benitez to go this weekend after tomorrow's abuse-fest... http://www.thesackrace.com/competitions/premier-league I can't see anyone else going before the end of the season, but BFS could be teh first to go afterwards...

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This thread started off with some recipes that > require 3 hours prep, overnight resting and 1 hrs > cooking. I'm guessing a lot of us don't have that > much time so I'm always up for new quick simple > recipes that I can make in 30 mins when I get in > late most nights. So many of those quick cookbooks > are total bollocks because their time starts after > all the prep and in reality I cant be ar$ed after > 14 hrs in the office. To be fair MrB, people were posting their recipes in response to TT's request for a 2 week meal plan for a family, not overworked late night cooks like yourself. Maybe we need general foodie/recipe thread, which can encompass all aspects of cooking/food...

Saturday 2nd March 2013 Chelsea 2 West Brom 1 Everton 2 Reading 1 Man Utd 3 Norwich 0 Southampton 1 QPR 2 Stoke 1 West Ham 1 Sunderland 2 Fulham 1 Swansea 3 Newcastle 2 Wigan 2 Liverpool 2 Sunday 3rd March 2013 Tottenham 2 Arsenal 2 Monday 4th March 2013 Aston Villa 1 Man City 2