red devil

Ok, I've applied that well known mathematical quotient 'Huggy's Rule' to the results, and I must say I'm liking the new table ;-) FA Cup knockout is a good idea... ETA Correction to Table

:) Might have to change emphasis to points scored rather than averages as an incentive!..

Table...

Weekend 27-28 Oct... ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Scores on the doors this week - please check > someone! > > Mr Lush 3 correct scores, 4 correct results - 13 > points (new best weekly score methinks?) open the > champers! > Otta 3 correct scores, 3 correct results - 12 > points > RD 2 correct scores 5 correct results - 11 points > (mr Consistency) > Parkdrive 2 correct scres 3 correct results - 9 > points > Lady G 2 correct scores, 2 correct results - 8 > points > Mick 1 correct score, 5 correct results - 8 > points > Alan M 1 correct score, 5 correct results - 8 > points > SCSB 1 correct scores, 4 correct results - 7 > points > Rhinestone 1 correct score, 4 correct results - 7 > points > ???? 1 correct score, 4 correct results - 7 > points > Maxxi 0 correct scores, 5 correct results - 5 > points > > It's not like the Hammers to be propping up the > table :) > > I'll update the overall table Probably after next > weekend as I'm short on time plus plase check your > own and let me know if I am wron.... I've done > these quickly JL - 4 Correct Results + 3 Correct Scores = 13 pts RD - 5 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 11 pts OT - 4 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 10 pts MM - 6 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 9 pts PD - 3 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 9 pts ?? - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts AM - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts LG - 2 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 8 pts RC - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts SC - 4 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 7 pts Mx - 5 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 5 pts

As ???? is busy I've offered to check and update scores...table to follow Weekend 20-21 Oct... ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dine these after a few beers so edit if neccessary > > > RD 2 correct scores 4 correct results= 10 Points > (Applause) > Jah 2 correct scores 3 correct results= 9 points > Rhinestone 1 correct score 6 correct results=9 > points > MickM 1 correct score 6 correct results=9 points > SCSB 1 correct score 5 correct results=8 points > Lady g 1 correct score 4 correct result=7 points > Otta 1 correct score 4 correct results=7 points > Alan M 1 correct score 3 correct results=6 points > Dave R 1 correct score 3 correct result=6 points > ???? 1 correct score 3 correct result=6 points > Parkdrive 5 correct scores = 5 points > Maxxi5 correct scores= 5 points JL - 4 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 10 pts RC - 4 Correct Results + 2 Correct Scores = 10 pts MM - 6 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 9 pts RD - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts SC - 5 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 8 pts LG - 4 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 7 pts OT - 4 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 7 pts ?? - 3 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 6 pts AM - 3 Correct Results + 1 Correct Score = 6 pts Mx - 5 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 5 pts PD - 5 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 5 pts DR - 4 Correct Results + 0 Correct Scores = 4 pts

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > red devil Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I find it strange that people are saying that > if > > Clattenburg was guilty his career would be > over. > > Why doesn't that apply to footballers? > Personally > > I'm all for second chances and rehabilitation > > after a suitable punishment is served. As well > as > > banning/fining players, the FA should insist on > > racial awareness community and educative work > as > > part of any punishment... > > > ABsolutely no way RD. he's a referee not a player. > Any controversial decision against a black > player?????? When I wrote my post, exactly the same point you made came to mind. But I feel the referee would know he would be under so much sccrutiny that he would soon get found out if he was showing any bias, and then rightly thrown out of the game. Fans will always come out of with their conspiracy theories, let's not bend to them...

They could come in quite handy on cold nights...

...and of course there is the choice you don't have to read the thread and/or comment...damn!

:) Definitely BONKERS! It was jumpers for goalsposts football, great fun for the neutral. Have to feel sorry for Reading though, they've never beaten Arsenal, and after tonight probably never will...

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A lot of precedents have been set recently for > players, will be interesting to see how the FA > ensures this is treated 'differently'...blah blah > 'special case' blah blah 'integrity of a referee's > authority' blah blah 'no question of prejudgement > but obviousy impossible for him to referee...' > blah blah 'suspended on full pay"... The PGMOB have already gone down this route..."scrutiny [of Clattenburg] would detract from the match and be unfair to the clubs and the supporters of both sides."

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Alan Medic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Something else football can learn from rugby is > to > > allow everyone to listen to the ref's mic. > > The trouble is (all?) the players swear. But i'm > amazed its not at least recorded? is it recorded? Apparently not...

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Obviously that's the problem Otta. But I don't see > what Mikel has got to gain from making an > accusation of racism if it was not true. Hence I > think Chelsea have acted correctly. ...although mobhandling the referee in his changing room and threatening to ''break his f*cking legs'' might not go down too well.

I find it strange that people are saying that if Clattenburg was guilty his career would be over. Why doesn't that apply to footballers? Personally I'm all for second chances and rehabilitation after a suitable punishment is served. As well as banning/fining players, the FA should insist on racial awareness community and educative work as part of any punishment...

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quite so RD > > To be fair to Mikel he normally comes across as > more laid back than most and not someone looking > for a fight > > The allegation I read is that the word ?monkey? > was used. Given the level of emotions in the > match, I wonder if that was used as a racial slur, > or if Clattenburg used the more common ?cheeky > monkey? when players were appealing a decision. If > it was the latter (speculation on my part) I can > see how it might be taken in the wrong way when > emotions are running high ? but that?s not the > same thing as Chelsea doubling-down after the > match > > Either way, someone is going to come out of this > looking very bad indeed According to reports I've read, neither Mikel or Mata actually heard the alleged remarks, both were told by other players later. Unlike the Terry case, there doesn't appear to be any video evidence to back up their claims, so if the linesmen and 4th official confirm that nothing of the like was said, it's a simple case of someone's word against another...still, keeps the FA busy

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chelsea sound more and more like a club out of > control > > http://mirr.im/QQScM9 Chelsea and Terry have previous on making false accusations against refs...oh look, Ashley Cole makes an appearance too... Only yesterday, Graham Poll recalled how Chelsea players had tried to muddy the waters after he had sent Terry off at Tottenham in November 2006. How Terry had claimed Poll had changed his reasons for issuing him with a second yellow ? and how Ashley Cole said the referee wanted to teach Chelsea a lesson and, if they didn?t calm down, he would. Chelsea later withdrew the allegations and Terry was fined ?10,000.

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rumours that sponsors 'Belgian Supermarket Lager > 12 Pack' are to pull out and that the season's > budget has been invested in a bet on the Irons > winning the FA Cup at 100/1 with BET365 are > probably true. I'm not sure the influx of continental beers/lagers and wine has been good for the game. English beers are being squeezed out by their cheaper continental cousins. The sooner Lager Fair Play rules come into effect the better. Some of us are struggling on a weekly 1 x 4 pack, albeit a superior brand. But we all know how quickly this can snowball...hic!

Don't worry Quids, I only bet for fun and what I can afford to lose. I've always known that the odds/probabilties are stacked in favour of the bookies. I've never got into trading, seems time hungry, constantly having to check whether to trade or not...

I was alluding to contact in general, not the specifics of the Torres incident. I agree, with the benefit of slo mo replays, there was marginal contact with Torres and none with the ball, therefore technically a foul...but also I understand why the ref didn't give it.

SJ, I think some people are forgetting that football is supposed to be a contact sport. There are degrees of contact, and I don't think video technology will resolve it, as it's very subjective as to what amount of contact is required to constitute a foul...although I'm fairly sure we all agree a kung fu kick at chest height is above acceptable contact :)

Read my earlier post...

I'm hoping the thesis will be published pre-Christmas Mick. I think a big factor is that once you introduce real money, I'm sure it influences decisions, and you become more conservative in your predictions, so not sure how you could ever quantify that...is this getting too deep? ;-)

if he chooses to go to ground its clear he wants the free kick, as with Torres. The problem with that Mick is that Torres went to ground pretending he had been kicked elsewhere = simualation, a bookable offence.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You're probably right Quids. > I've got 2 @ 6/1, 2 @ 15/2, 1 @ 8/1, 2 @ 10/1, 1 @ > 20/1, and 1 @ 25/1 (9 in total as I missed the > early kick-off). > Assuming the two outside bets don't win, I would > need to get 2 of the others correct to make a > profit. > I'm not placing any bets, just doing a 'what if'. > I'll also see what happens if I placed ?1 on each > correct result prediction... I predicted two correct scores @ 17/2. If I had placed ?1 on each of the 9 games I would've made a ?10 profit in total. I predicted 7 correct results. If I had placed ?1 on each of the 9 games I would've made ?11.50 profit in total. After only 1 week, too early to draw conclusions, but without doubles etc, there will never be big gains/losses with such a system...

"Contact is contact, Torres was fouled." I also agree. But if we believe that referees give honest decsions, then Clattenburg obviously didn't see that slight contact had been made. It was only confirmed to the armchair pundits with the luxury of numerous slo mo replays, camera angles and a zoom in. In real time it would've been impossible to be 100% sure either way. I actually think Clattenburg's decision was influenced by Torres' late fall. Also, the replays confirmed that Evans made contact with Torres on the ankle/boot area. But watch what Torres does when he eventually goes down, he holds his right knee even though he landed on his left knee. Maybe this was why Clattenburg deemed that Torres simulated a dive, as he was certain that Evans hadn't made contact with Torres' knee. I can see the pros and cons of video technology, but unless it arrives you just have to accept that referees/linesmen are human and will make mistakes/contentious decisions, but which hopefully even themselves out over the season, or in Torres' case during the game, as has been pointed out, he shouldn't have been on the field at the time of this incident...

I know you lost to Wigan, but it's not that bad...