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Yes and yes... maybe you're right, but plenty of people from a working class background aspire for more for their kids. But the evidence also suggests that comprehensives have actually been a barrier to social mobility, especially for the very poorest, and that grammar schools weren't (as much). Edited 'cos my grammar is so good

I sense some kind of trap. BTW *Bob* you know you need to pass some exams to be in this bit of the Forum?

'Vinegar face' is a fantastic manager, Warnock is not. He blew a 12 point cushion to get Sheff United relegated out odf the Premiership and still acts like they were cheated out of it as that's a paricular self-serving myth that suits him.

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This has come up in several recent threads and speaks very much to the whole equality debate. I believe we should. The results for counties (and LEAS) - Essex, Kent, Bucks, etc - that still have selection speak volumes even the results from the Secondary Moderns in selected areas are still better than 25% of comprehensives at GCSE. In Northern Ireland which is totally selective, 72% get 5As or better at GCSE compared to 62% nationally Until Comprehensive education, private education was in decline (and it looked terminal.) The decline in the share of university attendance from the bottom decile of income families started within a generation of Comprehensive Education?this is even further exaggerated when you look at Oxbridge. Basically If you were born in poverty (as in the bottom 10% of income households) in the 50s and 60s you had a better chance of going to university and Oxbridge than now. Comprehensive education has been a terrible case of lowest common denominator thinking. It has exaggerated class divide, widened the gap between rich and poor and lowered standards. House prices around those comprehensives that achieve good results are significantly higher than those that don?t further separating rich and poor. The whole experiment was a typical exercise in social engineering that I believe has decreased the overall standard of education, widened the social equality gap, been a massive boost to private education and exposed the hypocrisy of middleclass socialism ? left wing politicians wriggling their children out of the state system is a truly laughable and ultimately disgusting spectacle in hypocrisy. All of these were put forward as criticism of comprehensive education before it was introduced back then and they largely been proven true

France are now 2.1 Mick....you know what you should do......

I raise a Jar to Mr Jah

..keep those shoes away from me

Tell me something I didn't know

Hi Rosa... *waves up at Forest Hill

NO Nixon couldn't even get away with a burgalry FFS

I saw him 1971 Upton Park West Ham 2 Man U 1 'Georgie Best, superstar, walks like a woman and he wears aa bra'

and set up by me *wails inconsolably*

i see it all got a bit old school too ratty - I know objectively it's wrong but those needle games with a 'lively' atmosphere...luv 'em

'is'

'are'

yup looks very good. England is your worry I reckon

If Denman goes out enough I will be tempted

Have you got a clip of Henry's handball anywhere 'to hand' Mick?

Any news? I suggest the prototype is trialled on Mick Mac's computer.

(11) Pets are lucky to make it to 17

Kashmir - Led Zeppelin

Stevie Wonder

Headlining Glastonbury

I think that is a conspiracy too far Jah. I also think Donovan is an excellent player and since his arrival Everton have had something of a renaissance for sure.